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re: Smith Shooter's Lawyer "My Client Was Not The Aggressor"
Posted on 4/12/16 at 9:21 am to bencoleman
Posted on 4/12/16 at 9:21 am to bencoleman
quote:No.
I think the DA ought to go for murder one. It's premeditated as hell.
quote:After Smith commits a hit and run first
He rams Smith's car
quote:Or pulls a gun after Smith says he has one depending on if you believe a witness.
gets out with a gun,
quote:After smith reaches into his car, possibly for the weapon he just announced that he had.
and proceeds to light Smith up.
quote:
That's 1st degree murder right there
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 9:21 am to Deactived
quote:
Jones
if you have something firm you disagree with me on, spill it. if not, you are acting like quite the cock sucking bitch running around here fondling lester's nuts.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 9:21 am to Chad504boy
I'm more of a facts guy right now in this case, but one thing is clear... hayes was ready to tango and its made abundantly clear when he rams Will's car from behind.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 9:22 am to uptownsage
quote:
Drew Brees is not a witness, nor was he there. You were quoting Drew's word like it was gospel just because he said it. Everything he said is here-say. It seems you were basing most of your conclusions based on his interview.
what exact conclusions have I based off of drew's interview. That interview was late last night before i heard it and had been arguing all fricking day.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 9:23 am to uptownsage
quote:
here-say.
Or is it there-say?
FYI, the word is hearsay.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 9:24 am to oleyeller
If someone is threatening me, and I announce that I have a gun, have I committed a crime?
Do I deserve to be shot in the back multiple times until I'm dead?
Do I deserve to be shot in the back multiple times until I'm dead?
Posted on 4/12/16 at 9:24 am to Red Stick Tigress
quote:
Smith's murder was a "crime of passion" so to speak. It was the heat of the moment, not well thought out or planned.
This... That's why it's 2nd degree.... and his lawyer is pushing it further going for the manslaughter charge...
Posted on 4/12/16 at 9:25 am to Don Johnson
quote:
'm just saying its not a fact as you keep presenting. The guy you keep saying was an "eye witness", appears to me to not be an eye witness to the shooting. Rather a guy who overheard someone else.
guess it all depends on what you want to hear. It's plausible that it is second hand, but you're talking about a rather large detail of both guys having weapons.
Cops arrived on the scene within 4 minutes. This video is taken shortly thereafter. Even if 2nd hand, it's not like there was a lot of time to criss cross stories.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 9:26 am to BRgetthenet
quote:
If someone is threatening me, and I announce that I have a gun, have I committed a crime?
Do I deserve to be shot in the back multiple times until I'm dead?
Link someone saying the answer to either of these is yes.
This post was edited on 4/12/16 at 9:27 am
Posted on 4/12/16 at 9:26 am to BRgetthenet
quote:
If someone is threatening me, and I announce that I have a gun, have I committed a crime? Do I deserve to be shot in the back multiple times until I'm dead?
No you haven't, but it's not the smartest thing to do....
No... That's why he's being held on 2nd degree murder charges with a million dollar bond set..
This post was edited on 4/12/16 at 9:28 am
Posted on 4/12/16 at 9:27 am to RB10
quote:
Link someone saying the answer to either of these is yes.
its been said 100 times in this thread that if since will said he has a gun first then that means obviously hayes felt is life was in imminent danger and was justified in shooting smith in the back. in order words (frick ya'll i got one too....)
Posted on 4/12/16 at 9:28 am to Hangover Haven
quote:
No... That's why he being held on 2nd degree murder charges with a million dollar bond set..
^
Get's it.
2nd degree murder is the correct charge unless it's proven he planned this.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 9:29 am to BRgetthenet
quote:
someone is threatening me, and I announce that I have a gun, have I committed a crime?
Do I deserve to be shot in the back multiple times until I'm dead?
No one has said its a crime to say that.
but
if you told me you have a gun, Nd reach into vehicle do i wait until you grab the gun and turn it on me?
Posted on 4/12/16 at 9:29 am to Chad504boy
quote:
its been said 100 times in this thread that if since will said he has a gun first then that means obviously hayes felt is life was in imminent danger and was justified in shooting smith in the back
Shouldn't have a problem linking it then.
All I've seen is people saying it justifies the charge of 2nd degree murder or manslaughter.
This post was edited on 4/12/16 at 9:30 am
Posted on 4/12/16 at 9:31 am to BRgetthenet
quote:
If someone is threatening me, and I announce that I have a gun, have I committed a crime?
Do I deserve to be shot in the back multiple times until I'm dead?
You're going to help this thread go one million pages
Posted on 4/12/16 at 9:31 am to oleyeller
quote:
if you told me you have a gun, Nd reach into vehicle do i wait until you grab the gun and turn it on me?
were you selling girl scout cookies before or are you a 6'6 fricking a-hole in the street causing a ruckus wanting to fight?
Posted on 4/12/16 at 9:33 am to Chad504boy
quote:
scout cookies before or are you a 6'6 fricking a-hole in the street causing a ruckus wanting to fight?
no i had just been hit in the rear end by some a-hole who tried to hit and run and now he is threatning me with a gun....
Posted on 4/12/16 at 9:33 am to tigerpimpbot
It's an honest question.
I don't feel like he deserved to be shot for saying that.
Hayes should have sat down in his vehicle at that point. Cops were on the way.
I don't feel like he deserved to be shot for saying that.
Hayes should have sat down in his vehicle at that point. Cops were on the way.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 9:34 am to oleyeller
quote:
no i had just been hit in the rear end
just as you planned it. you guys keep sticking up and defending hayes. we see who the fricking assholes of the board are.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 9:37 am to Chad504boy
quote:
keep sticking up and defending hayes. we see who the fricking a-holes of the board are.
Im an ahole for listing facts? Im sorry Smith wasnt some innocent bystandard here. Im sorry your saints hero was responsible for a hit and run. Im sorry he got out and threatnend someone with a gun. Im sorry his actions caused him to be shot.
but dont let the facts get in the way here.
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