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re: Shreveportians lose their minds over tree trimming

Posted on 5/6/16 at 9:16 am to
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 5/6/16 at 9:16 am to
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Oak trees like that equal higher property values.



No. Appraisals aren't going to give you any more for oak trees. If you mean more desirability then yea but an there is nothing on an appraisal for live oaks.

The bank isn't going to lend money on something as vulnerable and uninsurable as a tree.
Posted by RecordSetter
Member since Mar 2016
330 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 9:17 am to
quote:

that tree looks much older than 70 years.

Posted by Salmon
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Member since Feb 2008
86707 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 9:18 am to
This is my neighborhood.

They are butchering the trees. They are removing whole sides of trees without any thought of keeping any aesthetic value.

There are ways to trim and still allow the trees to keep their shapes.

Yes. I'm pissed.
Posted by taylork37
Member since Mar 2010
15919 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 9:20 am to
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Moral of the story: Don't plant trees under power lines.


It will depend on what is in public road ROW and how far the power company's easement extends into their yards and what the wording on that easement is.

With a public ROW permit, the power company can most likely trim all the way up to the edge. Anything beyond will need to be covered under an easement.

If there is no existing overhang/tree trimming easement, the property owner can plant anything under the power lines they want.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58625 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 9:20 am to
quote:

I'd rather have my power go out occasionally than see 150 year old trees butchered.
those trees are at most 50 years old.
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
33865 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 9:20 am to
quote:

that tree looks much older than 70 years.


Ill just keep repeating this.
Posted by Salmon
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 5/6/16 at 9:20 am to
quote:

Something tells me this live oak was here before the power lines...


it was

Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
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Posted on 5/6/16 at 9:21 am to
You may be grateful during the next ice storm.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
184533 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 9:21 am to
quote:

There are ways to trim and still allow the trees to keep their shapes.




Then they'll have to come back every few years and trim again. They are butchering to save money so they'll be good for 10 years instead of 2.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 5/6/16 at 9:22 am to
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those trees are at most 50 years old


most of the complaints are about the 100 year old live oaks

all of those pictures on a single street

they haven't got to the streets that are lined with century year old live oaks
Posted by taylork37
Member since Mar 2010
15919 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 9:22 am to
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Yes. I'm pissed.


You really should check to see where the road ROW line is, as well as check to see if the power company has any easement that gives them the right to trim as far back as they did.

Posted by Salmon
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Member since Feb 2008
86707 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 9:23 am to
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Then they'll have to come back every few years and trim again. They are butchering to save money so they'll be good for 10 years instead of 2.


right

I understand it, doesn't mean I agree with it

Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
40907 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 9:23 am to
I knew you'd be in here quickly.

I'm torn. it needs to be done, but the work is visually terrible.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91873 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 9:23 am to
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but the maintenance (which is more frequent than you think) is also a lot more expensive.



Is it? You'd think it would be less frequent considering there is minimal environmental issues to address. Damn.

Either way, could you propose paying to put your power lines underground on your property with the power company? I know you can run it underground to your home, but I'm talking about paying to put their lines underground that are on your property too.

Or have an entire neighborhood go underground. I've never seen it and I'm sure it is costly, but I wonder if it is even possible.
Posted by Salmon
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Member since Feb 2008
86707 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 9:24 am to
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as well as check to see if the power company has any easement that gives them the right to trim as far back as they did.


they don't

a lawsuit is already being planned
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
33865 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 9:25 am to
Find the local bosses of whatever company is cutting. Go to there house and start chopping up trees. I bet they don't like it either.
Posted by Salmon
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Member since Feb 2008
86707 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 9:25 am to
quote:

I knew you'd be in here quickly.




I'm about ready to chain myself to some trees
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91873 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 9:26 am to
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The bank isn't going to lend money on something as vulnerable and uninsurable as a tree.




The bank may not lend you money because of the tree, but I'm pretty sure you can get oak trees insured.

I also thought that the actual appraisal would take into account the landscaping/surrounding vegetation, at least to some extent. Shouldn't an appraisal account for what something is worth, and surely we can agree that old oak trees are more valuable than no oak trees on a property. Hell, it seems irresponsible NOT to take into account the foliage on a property.

ETA: I can't seem to find specific insurance for individual trees because the search results are full of "does my homeowners cover a neighbor's tree that falls in my house" type of articles. I could have sworn I heard someone purchase insurance on some 100+ year old oak trees once.
This post was edited on 5/6/16 at 9:32 am
Posted by nes2010
Member since Jun 2014
8039 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 9:27 am to
Yea people would be surprised just how quickly a tree can grow when it has no competition for light. There was a tree in magnolia springs that was huge and people thought it was 500 years old. The owner couldn't do what he wanted with the property because the county wanted to protect the tree. He girdled it and killed it and after he had his land taken they found out the tree was only 90 years old. It just had full sunlight so it grew rapidly.
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Posted by taylork37
Member since Mar 2010
15919 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 9:30 am to
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Either way, could you propose paying to put your power lines underground on your property with the power company? I know you can run it underground to your home, but I'm talking about paying to put their lines underground that are on your property too.



I'm not sure how far a power company would go for one homeowner, but if a developer/city/state were to ask for lines to be placed underground (which happens quite frequently in nicer areas) the power company will most likely oblige. The requesting party is responsible for all costs though.

Here in Columbus the nicer areas are all installing roundabout and asking all power lines being relocated for those roundabouts to be placed underground.
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