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re: Shreveport second circuit Court rules Oschner cannot fire or discipline employees
Posted on 10/29/21 at 12:58 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 10/29/21 at 12:58 pm to lsupride87
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lsupride87
So my vaccination status tells an employer how well I do my job? You sound ridiculous.
Posted on 10/29/21 at 12:59 pm to liz18lsu
quote:I sound ridiculous because I think companies should have the right to choose who they employ?
So my vaccination status tells an employer how well I do my job? You sound ridiculous.
When did this board go full blown liberal?
Posted on 10/29/21 at 1:00 pm to liz18lsu
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So my vaccination status tells an employer how well I do my job? You sound ridiculous.
Hospitals are one of the few places where an argument for a vaccine can be made
At least for the employees with direct patient contact
Making janitors and IT people do it is dumb
Posted on 10/29/21 at 1:01 pm to Cosmo
This really isn’t difficult.
I also hate smoking in restaurants and bars, but it’s bullshite the govt has told business that they can’t allow it
It also bullshite Biden is trying to force employers to fire unvaxxed
It’s bullshite as well this court won’t allow Ochsner to fire employees they want to
I also hate smoking in restaurants and bars, but it’s bullshite the govt has told business that they can’t allow it
It also bullshite Biden is trying to force employers to fire unvaxxed
It’s bullshite as well this court won’t allow Ochsner to fire employees they want to
Posted on 10/29/21 at 1:02 pm to ducktale
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So as a big government liberal you aren't for protected classes? Should businesses be able to fire based on skin color?
What’s the protected class?
Posted on 10/29/21 at 1:02 pm to lsupride87
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small govt conservative
The medical community is essential a wing of the govt at this point with mandates, Medicare and Medicaid, etc. The Constitution was written to specifically include individual rights over government rights, or in this case corporations acting in place of the government.
If these people signed a legal, binding contract, that did not include termination based on a government mandate, then I side with the individual over the corporation.
Posted on 10/29/21 at 1:02 pm to lsupride87
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“We are an at-will state, like most states. So, an employer can pretty much mandate whatever he wants,” said attorney Gregory Miller.
Because of the surging delta variant, hospitals and other businesses are planning to make the shot mandatory once FDA-approved. There are only two exceptions where employees can opt-out.
VA requires COVID-19 vaccination for health care workers
“One would be a bonified religious belief where your religion doesn’t permit shots or other medical treatment. The other if you have a certain disability and you can get a medical excuse from your doctor saying that you would be high risk for the vaccine,” said Miller.
If those reasons do not apply to you, attorneys say there’s really nothing you can do when you’re an at-will employee.
“If you don’t like it, then you can leave your employment and go seek employment elsewhere,” said Miller.
Workers in Texas filed a lawsuit against their hospital requiring the vaccine. Their case was thrown out, and they are appealing that ruling.
Attorneys say it’s very unlikely workers in Louisiana would win a similar case.
Ochsner, the largest health system in the state, says all employees will be required to get the vaccine once it’s FDA-approved.
Posted on 10/29/21 at 1:03 pm to lsupride87
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It’s bullshite as well this court won’t allow Ochsner to fire employees they want to
fwiw, that's not what they are doing.
Posted on 10/29/21 at 1:03 pm to lsupride87
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lsupride87
How are you missing the point that this company is choosing to fire staff, not over performance, but a forced vaccine? Liberal? I am all for companies hiring the best candidate, but we all know that doesn’t happen, either. Firing for not getting a shot? Wow. You suck.
Posted on 10/29/21 at 1:04 pm to liz18lsu
quote:Who gives a shite. They have that right
How are you missing the point that this company is choosing to fire staff, not over performance, but a forced vaccine?
quote:Yes, if you support this ruling you are supporting a very liberal ideal
Liberal?
Posted on 10/29/21 at 1:05 pm to League Champs
quote:1. They don’t sign anything
If these people signed a legal, binding contract, that did not include termination based on a government mandate, then I side with the individual over the corporation.
2. This has nothing to do with the govt mandate
Posted on 10/29/21 at 1:06 pm to liz18lsu
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How are you missing the point that this company is choosing to fire staff, not over performance, but a forced vaccine? Liberal? I am all for companies hiring the best candidate, but we all know that doesn’t happen, either. Firing for not getting a shot? Wow. You suck.
They can fire you for wearing the wrong color scrubs if they want
Posted on 10/29/21 at 1:07 pm to lsupride87
I'd say its extremely unlikely oschner will lose any litigation, so really this not something to get that worked up over.
All the court is doing is putting an injunction over firings until people have had their day in court. Happens all the time.
Again, it just doesn't seem very likely this will go against oschner, based on other rulings so far.
All the court is doing is putting an injunction over firings until people have had their day in court. Happens all the time.
Again, it just doesn't seem very likely this will go against oschner, based on other rulings so far.
This post was edited on 10/29/21 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 10/29/21 at 1:07 pm to lsupride87
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Yes, if you support this ruling you are supporting a very liberal ideal
Then what about not giving preference to race or gender? I am against that. Still think I am liberal? What about siding with a liberal company with a clear control agenda? That’s you.
Posted on 10/29/21 at 1:08 pm to lsupride87
They can still technically fire the employees, they just can't use their vaccine status as the reason. Even if they lose the case, if I were one of these employees I would start looking elsewhere as any decent HR can find a reason to term someone.
Posted on 10/29/21 at 1:08 pm to bbap
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I'd say its extremely unlikely oschner will lose any litigation, so really this not something to get that worked up over.
All the court is doing is putting an injunction over firings until people have had their day in court. Happens all the time.
Again, it just doesn't seem very likely this will go against oschner, based on other rulings so far.
Until the vaccine is FDA approved
Posted on 10/29/21 at 1:10 pm to bbap
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I'd say its extremely likely oschner will lose any litigation, so really this not something to get that worked up over.
ETA, saw this was edited after posting.
This post was edited on 10/29/21 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 10/29/21 at 1:11 pm to billjamin
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I see you haven't been keeping up with the Houston Methodist cases.
I have not
Posted on 10/29/21 at 1:11 pm to billjamin
i had it as likely by accident at first. fixed the post.
Posted on 10/29/21 at 1:12 pm to bbap
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i had it as likely by accident at first. fixed the post.
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