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re: Should felons get rights back after serving time?
Posted on 9/21/22 at 6:08 pm to SCLibertarian
Posted on 9/21/22 at 6:08 pm to SCLibertarian
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Yes. They served their time.
This.
If they're that bad they shouldn't be out.
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Posted on 9/21/22 at 6:10 pm to Bestbank Tiger
As we get rid of cash bail, send ppl homes from prison because of covid, and have DAs under prosecuting at an all time high.
But if they out, they good
But if they out, they good
Posted on 9/21/22 at 6:11 pm to momentoftruth87
I bet you've committed a felony at some point in your life.
Or are we permanently stripping people of their rights not because of what they did, but because they got caught?
Or are we permanently stripping people of their rights not because of what they did, but because they got caught?
Posted on 9/21/22 at 6:12 pm to momentoftruth87
Non violent- sure.
Violent - nope.
Violent - nope.
Posted on 9/21/22 at 6:13 pm to momentoftruth87
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You said if they pay taxes. Technically illegals pay taxes, therefore they should have rights. Your words Tyga
I was under the assumption that we were talking about American felons. But you knew that.
Posted on 9/21/22 at 6:16 pm to Tyga Woods
Would illegal migrants not be felons? I don’t cross the border. Perhaps El gaucho could help us here.
Posted on 9/21/22 at 6:16 pm to momentoftruth87
I can't give a blanket answer. I think it should be considered by a court, on application of the person seeking to get his rights back, on a case by case basis.
Posted on 9/21/22 at 6:16 pm to momentoftruth87
maybe if our legal system batter .1000 but far too many innocent people are/have been locked up
Posted on 9/21/22 at 6:17 pm to momentoftruth87
Yes. If they are released they paid their dues.
Posted on 9/21/22 at 6:25 pm to momentoftruth87
If you are released and off parole/probation yes
The thing is carjackers and the like should be locked away for life making this a non issue
A blanket felony ban is bad
The thing is carjackers and the like should be locked away for life making this a non issue
A blanket felony ban is bad
This post was edited on 9/21/22 at 6:26 pm
Posted on 9/21/22 at 6:27 pm to momentoftruth87
Actions have consequences. And taking rights away should be a consequence of serious crime. Now label what a serious crime is. Felony?
Posted on 9/21/22 at 6:27 pm to momentoftruth87
No. We need as few stupid, self-centered bastards voting as possible.
Posted on 9/21/22 at 6:29 pm to Rebel
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Violent - nope.
Then why are they out of prison?
This post was edited on 9/21/22 at 6:29 pm
Posted on 9/21/22 at 6:30 pm to momentoftruth87
Just remember rights are not derived from the state.
Posted on 9/21/22 at 6:32 pm to GCTigahs
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Now label what a serious crime is. Felony?
There are too many felonies on the books as is.
A significant number of them are used as a way to force plea deals or just frick someone over.
It's out of hand. Overcharge to hell and back and figure it out later is standard operation.
Posted on 9/21/22 at 6:33 pm to Joshjrn
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I bet you've committed a felony at some point in your life.
Please be specific on what felonious offenses? Many posters are college educated here, served in the military, know right from wrong and have never committed a felony whatsoever.
Hell, even DWI was considered to be an egregious offense while serving on active duty and would lead to dire consequences, at least when I was in.
Posted on 9/21/22 at 6:34 pm to weagle99
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If they are released they paid their dues.
Negative on that. Plenty of folks get released after years and still owe restitution to their victims. Sometimes paying a debt to society is literally just paying a debt. That was a caveat Florida's felon voter law came with, and i concur with it enthusiastically. With that said, I've also had a few friends get slapped with outrageous fines I'd never pay off post prison, like 50-75k on state trafficking charges. I certainly don't want to incentivize large fines for holding voting rights hostage.
This post was edited on 9/21/22 at 6:41 pm
Posted on 9/21/22 at 6:35 pm to SCLibertarian
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they served their time
But, did they pay their debt?
Let's say they stole cars. Did they repay insurance? Repay victim for costs incurred?
Posted on 9/21/22 at 6:36 pm to momentoftruth87
Not all felons “served time”! Many people have felony convictions and were never sent to prison
Posted on 9/21/22 at 6:39 pm to mmonro3
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Not all felons “served time”! Many people have felony convictions and were never sent to prison
I would say a majority
Extremely uncommon around here for many lower level felonies to see much if any at all time served. First offense(s) practically zero. Anyone with a lawyer zero.
This post was edited on 9/21/22 at 6:40 pm
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