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re: She's going away for a long time, when will people learn and she's not a teacher
Posted on 3/12/21 at 5:45 pm to Landmass
Posted on 3/12/21 at 5:45 pm to Landmass
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That's not ok. That's sick and she needs to go away for a long long time. I'm pretty tired of the OT being excited about a pretty(ish) face having sex with under-age boys. It's not OK and it shouldn't be celebrated. It can cause life-time mental issues for those boys.
What kind of mental issues? Nightmares about all the high fives they’re getting?
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Posted on 3/12/21 at 5:46 pm to Mike da Tigah
She needs the D. Come on.
Posted on 3/12/21 at 5:48 pm to RummelTiger
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I hate that it happened to your wife - that's horrible, but do you know a 12-year old boy that has been abused?
Yes, and again, I’m most certainly NOT justifying it. It’s warped, but the effects are not the same.
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And it is literally the same thing, you are just applying a gender bias towards it because of societal views on gender norms.
It’s not bias. It’s reality. We are physically and emotionally different, and do not think the same. That’s just the way it is. I fully realize that doesnt fit the modern progressive narrative, but it is based in reality.
Posted on 3/12/21 at 5:54 pm to Mike da Tigah
forgive me
let's say a 14 year old girl has sex with a 24 year old man and a 11 year old boy is held down tied up by a 50 year old woman and your logic suggests the boy is not as damaged by the experience as the girl
because boys like sex more than girls
let's say a 14 year old girl has sex with a 24 year old man and a 11 year old boy is held down tied up by a 50 year old woman and your logic suggests the boy is not as damaged by the experience as the girl
because boys like sex more than girls
This post was edited on 3/12/21 at 5:55 pm
Posted on 3/12/21 at 5:54 pm to Mike da Tigah
Sooooooooo...
If you had a 12-year old son.
12.
And he went to spend the night at a friend's house only to be given alcohol and then raped by an adult woman...
What would you like to see happen to her? What do you think would be a just punishment?
If you had a 12-year old son.
12.
And he went to spend the night at a friend's house only to be given alcohol and then raped by an adult woman...
What would you like to see happen to her? What do you think would be a just punishment?
Posted on 3/12/21 at 5:59 pm to OWLFAN86
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forgive me
let's say a 14 year old girl has sex with a 24 year old man and a 11 year old boy is held down tied up by a 50 year old woman and your logic suggests the boy is not as damaged by the experience as the girl
because boys like sex more than girls
I’m saying that a fully grown man penetrating a little girl is evil as frick and warrants castration, but a little boy penetrating a grown woman who wooed him into sex is warped and setting him up for hang ups and a warped sense of what sex is supposed to be between a man and a woman, but nowhere near the same disgusting filth. That’s what I’m saying.
Posted on 3/12/21 at 6:04 pm to Mike da Tigah
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Mike da Tigah
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grown woman who wooed him into sex
quote:not the same
a 11 year old boy is held down tied up by a 50 year old woman
Posted on 3/12/21 at 6:04 pm to RummelTiger
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What would you like to see happen to her? What do you think would be a just punishment?
I think she should serve time, but I think perhaps life is a bit extreme. Again, I don’t subscribe to the whole men and women or boy and girls are equally the same argument. They’re not, and what happened in that story from what I read is not even remotely close to the same thing as a little girl getting abused by a fully grown man, and that’s really what I take issue with.
Posted on 3/12/21 at 6:07 pm to OWLFAN86
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a 11 year old boy is held down tied up by a 50 year old woman
That’s nowhere in the article.
Posted on 3/12/21 at 6:09 pm to Mike da Tigah
I was not made aware we could only use the article in our arguments.
remind me again from the ARTICLE who was the man and who was the little girl?
remind me again from the ARTICLE who was the man and who was the little girl?
Posted on 3/12/21 at 6:12 pm to OWLFAN86
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I was not made aware we could only use the article in our arguments.
Well, I guess since it’s what this thread is about, it was what we were discussing until we all of a sudden introduced another scenario.
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remind me again from the ARTICLE who was the man and who was the little girl?
You’re the one who introduced another scenario, maybe you can tell me. How did we get to a little boy getting held down against his will?
Posted on 3/12/21 at 6:18 pm to Landmass
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That's not ok. That's sick and she needs to go away for a long long time. I'm pretty tired of the OT being excited about a pretty(ish) face having sex with under-age boys. It's not OK and it shouldn't be celebrated. It can cause life-time mental issues for those boys.
Yep... and that piece of garbage sexual predator was getting them drunk on top of that, ages 12 and 13. She is no different than any male sexual predator that grooms minors, male and/or female, for his sexual gratification.
But don’t get angry at the those of the OT that are easily excited by such debauchery, as they are clueless and ignorant of the potential effects of this predator’s actions. Or maybe they just don’t care.
Posted on 3/12/21 at 7:13 pm to RummelTiger
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And it is literally the same thing, you are just applying a gender bias towards it because of societal views on gender norms.
If you're wondering why conservatives are losing the culture war...
Posted on 3/12/21 at 7:32 pm to RummelTiger
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And he went to spend the night at a friend's house only to be given alcohol and then raped by an adult woman...
If anyone did that to either my boys or girls - they probably wouldn’t make it to the courtroom
If the rapists are proven guilty - it should be an automatic life sentence regardless of gender or age or age of victim.
The average sentence for a rapist is 7 years. That’s despicable.
Posted on 3/12/21 at 7:40 pm to GreenRockTiger
I don't agree with the life sentence. I think this woman is deranged and obviously needs to have the book thrown at her, but that's over the top and will end up having the reverse effect on society.
Twenty years from now they'll be talking about life sentences are too extreme and we need to reduce sentences and next thing you know, there will be no age of consent.
Laws have to be just and that includes the punishment.
Twenty years from now they'll be talking about life sentences are too extreme and we need to reduce sentences and next thing you know, there will be no age of consent.
Laws have to be just and that includes the punishment.
This post was edited on 3/12/21 at 7:41 pm
Posted on 3/12/21 at 7:54 pm to squid_hunt
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Laws have to be just and that includes the punishment.
This is an interesting part of juridical decisions - what exactly is just?
Personally, I tend to believe that the sexual violation of a true minor - by which I mean a prepubescent or a newly pubescent - by a much older party should carry the penalty of death. However, that is just a personal inclination and not necessarily the most prudent policy possible. I just wonder what the "middle" looks like in something like this.
Posted on 3/12/21 at 7:55 pm to Mike da Tigah
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I’m saying that a fully grown man penetrating a little girl is evil as frick and warrants castration, but a little boy penetrating a grown woman who wooed him into sex is warped and setting him up for hang ups and a warped sense of what sex is supposed to be between a man and a woman, but nowhere near the same disgusting filth. That’s what I’m saying.
And what you are saying could not be more wrong if you tried. You have no idea what sexual trauma does to a child of that age (male or female).
It traumatizes boys just as much as girls. There is really not much of a difference in mental health outcomes.
It is devastating.
Posted on 3/12/21 at 8:09 pm to squid_hunt
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Laws have to be just and that includes the punishment.
Yes - and many times the rape victim suffers for his or her whole life
So why shouldn’t the rapist?
Life sentence for convicted rapists.
Posted on 3/12/21 at 8:09 pm to nicholastiger
And the parents had a nice meal at Wendy's, while the kids drank, smoked and had sex. Enjoy my tax dollars and the frosty.
Posted on 3/12/21 at 8:14 pm to GreenRockTiger
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Life sentence for convicted rapists.
Does it appear that long sentences are deterring criminals? Isn't that the point? Making them super longer isn't going to make it more effective. It's going to get a negative backlash and end up flipping the debate.
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