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re: Sheriff praised Jesus on department Facebook page, county settles suit

Posted on 8/16/16 at 2:02 pm to
Posted by AjaxFury
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Posted on 8/16/16 at 2:02 pm to
Atheist claims evolution is a religion

Atheists have long put science in place of religion, limiting its dogma into what man can quantitatively discover. It is exalting the created (man) over the Creator.

Surely, you can find many other prominent Atheists acknowledging it as a form of religion if you are being intellectually honest.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
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Posted on 8/16/16 at 2:03 pm to
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Facebook posts mean the government is establishing a state religion?????


State actor using state resources to promote one religion over another. Pretty simple.

It's why he stated in the article that from now on he'd use his personal Facebook page to post stuff like this. Had he done that, this entire thing would have been avoided. He did not, however, because his personal Facebook page, at least before this controversy, was likely only comprised of dudes he went to high school with...so his pulpit would not have been as large as the official one.
Posted by AjaxFury
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Posted on 8/16/16 at 2:06 pm to
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I'll accept this as long as you agree that as long as I'm not in a church I have tax exempt status.


Buy a place of worship and congregate there and I'm sure you can. But I suspect the Internet and academia is all the "house" needed to worship that religion these days

Not every Christian goes to church. They read their Bible in their alone time or amongst family/friends, but aren't asking to be tax exempt.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
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Posted on 8/16/16 at 2:08 pm to
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Atheist claims evolution is a religion


You just linked something from Creation Ministries...eat a dick for making that show up in my internet history.

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Atheists have long put science in place of religion, limiting its dogma into what man can quantitatively discover. It is exalting the created (man) over the Creator.


Doesn't make it a religion...in any way. But of course you already know that.

Look...don't take this the wrong way, but you're late to this fight here. This is clearly nothing more than a debate tactic to try and equate the two to try and limit atheism in the ways you think religion is being limited. The problem is that your religion is an affirmative statement about the supernatural. My belief is nothing remotely like that. It's a lack of a belief...it's the default position until evidence is provided.

I feel for you...it would be easier to have these discussions with a Muslim or Jew as we'd be arguing apples to apples. We're not, though.

Posted by TheHiddenFlask
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Posted on 8/16/16 at 2:09 pm to
There is so much stupid in here.

Using a government sanctioned website to spout off religious crap is dumb and this guy should be reprimanded.

It wasn't an infringement of freedom of speech, but it was an infringement of religious freedom because it is indirect intimidation.

I don't understand who got paid, but I want my cut. monetary fines were not the appropriate measure here. At least not in excess of attorney's fees.

I've met tons of atheists and agnostics and I've literally never encountered a satanist in my life. I'm pretty sure that there are only a handful of people that actually are and the churches prop it up as a big bogeyman.
Posted by AjaxFury
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Posted on 8/16/16 at 2:13 pm to
What difference does where the quote was CITED make?

The quote can be independently verified using other sources. First Google search pulled that up, and I've seen that quote before.

BTW, hover over the link and you can see the website b4 clicking it.
I'm done arguing it's not productive
Posted by efrad
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Posted on 8/16/16 at 2:14 pm to
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Look...don't take this the wrong way, but you're late to this fight here. This is clearly nothing more than a debate tactic to try and equate the two to try and limit atheism in the ways you think religion is being limited. The problem is that your religion is an affirmative statement about the supernatural. My belief is nothing remotely like that. It's a lack of a belief...it's the default position until evidence is provided.



The other problem he doesn't understand is that atheism overlaps with many other religions in the world that do not believe in a God or god(s).

I myself am a Buddhist and Buddhism has no "god" -- Siddhartha Gautama aka the "Buddha" was just a normal man on Earth -- therefore I am both a Buddhist and an atheist.
Posted by efrad
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Posted on 8/16/16 at 2:16 pm to
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What difference does where the quote was CITED make?



Why does the quote matter in the first place?

Some random philosophy and zoology professor from University of Whoknowswhere, Canada says something and now I'm supposed to accept it as fact?
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 8/16/16 at 2:24 pm to
Evangelical atheists are the product of parents not loving their children.

They grow up weird and awkward and aren't picked for sports teams and then they end up suing rural Sheriff's offices

Let this be a lesson to all of you -- hug your kids
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 8/16/16 at 2:25 pm to
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Damages to who? For what?


The war on Christianity is strong in this country.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 8/16/16 at 2:26 pm to
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It isn't even a positive claim that there ARE no gods, merely the default position until evidence can be presented to prove the existence.


I always thought being an atheist meant you firmly believe there are no gods, and being an agnostic meant you aren't sure until evidence proves one way or the other
Posted by AjaxFury
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Posted on 8/16/16 at 2:26 pm to
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“This is a message from Muhammad ibn Abdullah, as a covenant to those who adopt Christianity, near and far, we are with them. Verily I, the servants, the helpers, and my followers defend them, because Christians are my citizens; and by Allah! I hold out against anything that displeases them. No compulsion is to be on them.

Neither are their judges to be removed from their jobs nor their monks from their monasteries. No one is to destroy a house of their religion, to damage it, or to carry anything from it to the Muslims’ houses. Should anyone take any of these, he would spoil God’s covenant and disobey His Prophet. Verily, they are my allies and have my secure charter against all that they hate. No one is to force them to travel or to oblige them to fight. The Muslims are to fight for them.

If a female Christian is married to a Muslim, it is not to take place without her approval. She is not to be prevented from visiting her church to pray. Their churches are to be respected. They are neither to be prevented from repairing them nor the sacredness of their covenants. No one of the nation (Muslims) is to disobey the covenant till the Last Day (end of the world).”


This is from the Koran, so judging by the last sentence , we are either at the end of the world, or their are a large sect of Muslims perverting the word in their own holy book.

If Sharia ever hit here, the people who are too cowardly to claim anything would be targeted first. Christian men and women fought and died to provide a safe land for others to teach their hate in this current age
Posted by 3deadtrolls
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Posted on 8/16/16 at 2:37 pm to
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The war on Christianity is strong in this country.


No it isn't. There's no war against Christians in the United States.
This post was edited on 8/16/16 at 2:38 pm
Posted by 3deadtrolls
lafayette
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 8/16/16 at 2:40 pm to
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Atheists have long put science in place of religion, limiting its dogma


I stopped reading at Atheist dogma.
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 8/16/16 at 2:55 pm to
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I always thought being an atheist meant you firmly believe there are no gods, and being an agnostic meant you aren't sure until evidence proves one way or the other



Atheism can mean you firmly deny in the belief of god OR you just have a lack of belief.
Agnosticism can mean you belief that the nature of reality can never be known, OR that we just don't know the nature reality now.
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 8/16/16 at 2:57 pm to
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This is from the Koran, so judging by the last sentence , we are either at the end of the world, or their are a large sect of Muslims perverting the word in their own holy book.

If Sharia ever hit here, the people who are too cowardly to claim anything would be targeted first. Christian men and women fought and died to provide a safe land for others to teach their hate in this current age


What does this have to do with anything at all?


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too cowardly to claim anything


Wait, I thought you were just saying atheism is something?
This post was edited on 8/16/16 at 2:58 pm
Posted by AjaxFury
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Posted on 8/16/16 at 3:00 pm to
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Wait, I thought you were just saying atheism is something?


And you are claiming it's not, further proving the point.

The ones who think they are safest hiding in the middle will be the most vulnerable.
Posted by efrad
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Posted on 8/16/16 at 3:06 pm to
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And you are claiming it's not, further proving the point.



Your koran quote doesn't prove anything

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The ones who think they are safest hiding in the middle will be the most vulnerable.



So I should reject Buddhism just because there's no belief in a god in it?
Posted by DupontsCircle
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Posted on 8/16/16 at 3:11 pm to
LOL guess being an athiest doesn't preclude you from being a pussy
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 8/16/16 at 3:15 pm to
I'd blame the atheists for the bullshite lawsuit, but the pussies went and settled and basically gave them validation for their bullshite claims.

Stop caving to a child's tantrums if you ever expect him to grow up. Parenting 101.
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