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re: Settle This Facebook Math Problem

Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:39 pm to
Posted by Yellerhammer5
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:39 pm to
quote:

The OT


Posted by TheArrogantCorndog
Highland Rd
Member since Sep 2009
14814 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:44 pm to
If he only started with $60 available, the answer is $10 because he would need to borrow another $10 to afford the $80 for the final $10 on the last sale, thus negating the last sale completely

Only has $60 to start:

Buys horse for $60
Sells for $70
$10 profit

Borrows $10
Now has $80

Buys horse for $80
Sells for $90

Now has $20 profit, but owes $10
Ends with $10


But none of that matters since the original problem doesn't expressly say the buyer has exactly $60 to start, so the answer is $20
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35476 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:44 pm to
quote:

Buy at $60 (initial investment) = net profit $0
Sell at $70 = net profit +$10
Buy back at $80 = net profit $0
Sell at $90 = net profit +$10

I dunno, I hate these

This is what I have but I'm not sober and terrible at math in the first place. Why is this wrong?
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35476 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:45 pm to
quote:

If he only started with $60 available, the answer is $10 because he would need to borrow another $10 to afford the $80 for the final $10 on the last sale, thus negating the last sale completely

Ok, I got it now. That's what I was doing.
Posted by Fratigerguy
Member since Jan 2014
4743 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 11:06 pm to
quote:

If he only started with $60 available, the answer is $10 because he would need to borrow another $10 to afford the $80 for the final $10 on the last sale, thus negating the last sale completely

Only has $60 to start:

Buys horse for $60
Sells for $70
$10 profit

Borrows $10
Now has $80

Buys horse for $80
Sells for $90

Now has $20 profit, but owes $10
Ends with $10





No no no. Lol. No.

He has $90 at the end. Say he borrowed $10 and had to pay it back. He now has $80. He started with $60. Still has $20 profit. You are forgetting about the original $10 profit. Basically, you could negate the initial $10 by placing it against the $10 he needed to borrow upon the future sale, making the $90 sale equal $20 profit over his "new" amount of money in hand, which was $70.
Posted by OKellsBells
USA
Member since Dec 2016
5264 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 11:17 pm to
He bought the horse for $60
sold for $70
buys back for $80

He had to have $70 to start with.

Horse sells for $90 so he makes twenty bucks.
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 11:20 pm
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28705 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 11:22 pm to
quote:

But none of that matters since the original problem doesn't expressly say the buyer has exactly $60 to start
No, none of that matters because it is 100% wrong.

Posted by larry289
Holiday Island, AR
Member since Nov 2009
3858 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 11:24 pm to
Correct answer is break even.
Posted by OKellsBells
USA
Member since Dec 2016
5264 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 11:27 pm to
How can the answer be anything but $20 profit? He begins with $70 in his pocket based on the info given.
Posted by TheArrogantCorndog
Highland Rd
Member since Sep 2009
14814 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 11:32 pm to
It's $20 total profit all day long

$10 on first transaction
$10 on second transaction

We are arguing the same point... I was showing the math on the only possible outcome of $10 profit... which is he couldn't afford the $10 jump, thus causing him to borrow $10, thus negating the final transaction
Posted by BayouNation
Member since Sep 2008
2009 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 11:38 pm to
Damn some of you are stupid. The correct and final answer us $20. What is so difficult.

End this thread before we become more stupider. Lol
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
Member since Oct 2005
132307 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 11:42 pm to
quote:

Damn some of you are stupid. The correct and final answer us $20. What is so difficult.


The answer is $10
Posted by TheArrogantCorndog
Highland Rd
Member since Sep 2009
14814 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 11:44 pm to
quote:

The answer is $10



I've got a cat for sale at $70... Wanna play this out in person??
Posted by BayouNation
Member since Sep 2008
2009 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 11:44 pm to
Explain...
Posted by Fratigerguy
Member since Jan 2014
4743 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 11:44 pm to
quote:

It's $20 total profit all day long

$10 on first transaction
$10 on second transaction

We are arguing the same point... I was showing the math on the only possible outcome of $10 profit... which is he couldn't afford the $10 jump, thus causing him to borrow $10, thus negating the final transaction


But you're saying there's a way he could get to $10 profit. There is not. He would still profit $20 even having to repay a $10 loan.
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
Member since Oct 2005
132307 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 11:46 pm to
so you will buy the cat back for $100?
Posted by Psychoanalysis
Shreveport
Member since Aug 2017
125 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 11:47 pm to
quote:

The answer is $10



I can see that some of you are hooked on the complexity of the problem and some don't understand how a loan works on a ledger.

In simple terms:

Started with 60.
Ended with 90.
30 net increase

Borrowed 10
So 30-10=

$20 net profit.

It has been explained multiple times in this thread.

In the absolute simplest terms:

0-60+70+10-80+90-10=20

If you are still confused:


Beginning balance (line value:0)[net problem value:0]
-
First horse purchase (60)[-60]
+
First horse sale (70)[+10]
+
Loan (10)[+20]
-
Second horse purchase (80)[-60]
+
Second horse sale (90)[+30]
-
Repayment of loan (10)[+20]
=
20

To continue to insist otherwise is an exercise in futility and a blatant show of ignorance.

Please feel free to copy and paste this for anyone who doesn't understand:


He borrows 60 to buy the horse, then sells it for 70, he pays back the 60 and now has $10 in his pocket.

He then borrows 70, adds it to the 10 in his pocket and buys the horse for 80, then sells it for 90. He pays back the 70 loan and is left with 20 in his pocket.
This post was edited on 9/20/17 at 12:27 am
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28705 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 11:47 pm to
quote:

I was showing the math on the only possible outcome of $10 profit... which is he couldn't afford the $10 jump, thus causing him to borrow $10, thus negating the final transaction
But your math is wrong. Borrowing $10 doesn't negate the final transaction, it actually puts him ahead $30 until he pays the $10 back.


It doesn't matter if he started with $0 and borrowed $1,000,000. He bought two horses and made $10 on each when he sold them. He pays back the million (assuming no interest) and pockets $20.
Posted by TheArrogantCorndog
Highland Rd
Member since Sep 2009
14814 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 11:59 pm to
Of course its $20 profit, unless he only has $60 at his disposal, which the problem does not expressly state... thus the only explanation for him finishing with $10 profit is to start with exactly $60, otherwise he makes $20

$10 black
+
$10 red
+
$10 black
=
$10 black
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George
Member since Aug 2004
77957 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 12:02 am to
Dammit how many times do I have to tell you people the plane will still take off!
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