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Posted on 9/20/17 at 12:44 am to
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 9/20/17 at 12:44 am to
Why?

He took $70 out of pocket and made $90.

He spent $60
What kills me is the more I think of it, it seems like $10 profit but on paper it's $20.

Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 9/20/17 at 12:46 am to
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What kills me is the more I think of it, it seems like $10 profit but on paper it's $20.

Same here.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 9/20/17 at 12:46 am to
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You can't use a calculator per say for a definitive point.
quote:

Because the calculator will not factor in the fact that he used his profit in the transaction
It doesn't matter if he "used his profit" or if he took out a loan or if he used a different array of twenty dollar bills to buy the same horse or a different horse or if he bought some shite on a stick.

Money is money and profit is profit. His purchases total $140 and his sales total $160. Nothing else at all matters, he made $20.
Posted by pioneerbasketball
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Posted on 9/20/17 at 12:47 am to
He spent $60.
He gains $70.
He thus has gotten $10 extra dollars.

But then in order to buy the horse at $80 he must take $10 from profit else so he no longer is $10 up - he is even.

So then he sells the horse at $90 and is thus $10 up.
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 9/20/17 at 12:47 am to
Business roll profit like this all the time.

He spent a total of $70 out of pocket.
He made $90.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28705 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 12:48 am to
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Meet me at the bar, and I'll buy you a beer.
If I sell it back to you for $10, how much money did you spend on that beer?
Posted by pioneerbasketball
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Posted on 9/20/17 at 12:51 am to
What state are we in? Taxes? Tip The bartender? Cover Charge? draft or bottle? brand of beer?
Posted by Psychoanalysis
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Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 9/20/17 at 12:51 am to
Just so I can completely understand what you're saying, you're telling me if I walk into a building with $0. And I walk out of the building with $20 that I some how only made $10?

That's your position? Explain to me exactly how that would work. In what math equation does 0+20=10?


This post was edited on 9/20/17 at 12:55 am
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28705 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 12:52 am to
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He spent $60.
He gains $70.
He thus has gotten $10 extra dollars.
Yes, great.
quote:

But then in order to buy the horse at $80 he must take $10 from profit else so he no longer is $10 up - he is even.
See, what the frick are you doing here? At this point, he isn't even, nor is he up $10. He is $70 in the hole.
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So then he sells the horse at $90 and is thus $10 up.
According to your prior logic, if he was even and sold the horse at $90, he's up $90. But here you say he is somehow up $10.

He was $70 in the hole before he sold for $90, and $20 ahead after he sold for $90.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28705 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 12:53 am to
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What state are we in? Taxes? Tip The bartender? Cover Charge? draft or bottle? brand of beer?



I hope this means you've been trolling all this time.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69068 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 12:54 am to
I give you $60 to borrow you promise to pay back $70.

I have -60 then +70. I am now +10 over the 60 I had before.

I take that 70, that was really 60 + 10 and then borrow 10 to have 80, now I have 80 bucks in total. (damn that does wipe out my profit). At this point I have put in 60+10 of my money because I spent 60 to buy the horse. Then put 10 on top of that. So I have now spent $70 of my money to make 90.
So I "made" 20.

It's still a 20 dollar profit.

Posted by pioneerbasketball
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Posted on 9/20/17 at 12:54 am to
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I hope this means you've been trolling all this time.

I never troll.
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
12300 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 12:55 am to
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He spent $60.
He gains $70.
He thus has gotten $10 extra dollars.

But then in order to buy the horse at $80 he must take $10 from profit else so he no longer is $10 up - he is even.

So then he sells the horse at $90 and is thus $10 up.


How'd he manage to buy the horse at $60? From whence did he take that "$60 in profit?" Why do you think it matters? It doesn't. All that matters is the cash flows. There's no reason to think he's taking out a loan and paying interest or any of the other nonsense I've seen posted here. See my earlier posts for the correct way to think about it.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28705 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 12:56 am to
quote:

I give you $60 to borrow you promise to pay back $70.

I have -60 then +70. I am now +10 over the 60 I had before.

I take that 70, that was really 60 + 10 and then borrow 10 to have 80, now I have 80 bucks in total. (damn that does wipe out my profit). At this point I have put in 60+10 of my money because I spent 60 to buy the horse. Then put 10 on top of that. So I have now spent $70 of my money to make 90.
So I "made" 20.

It's still a 20 dollar profit.

Man, you somehow made it more complicated.

I hope pioneer replies to your comment and says he gets it now.
Posted by pioneerbasketball
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Member since Oct 2005
132307 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 12:56 am to
no.

You can't buy and sell anything in $10 increments and gain a $20 profit.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28705 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 12:57 am to
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I never troll.
Posted by OKellsBells
USA
Member since Dec 2016
5264 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 12:57 am to
PB it's $20 dammit. If I'm wrong, I lose nothing.

Is this that rhetorical question they torture accounting students with?
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69068 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 12:58 am to
When I started the post I was sure it was 20, halfway through I started wavering. Then the math comes throught.

Fact he spent 60 and then 10 and that's it of his money.

He woke up that day with $70 and ended with $90.
He made $20.

Goodnight. lol
Posted by pioneerbasketball
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132307 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 1:00 am to
goodnight. I'm sure the morning crew will get this figured out.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69068 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 1:01 am to
I have a Dollar. I buy a toy.

I sell toy for $11. I made $10.

I buy toy for $10, I sell for $21. Are you saying I did not make $20??

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