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re: Settle a drunken argument: Tyson vs Bruce Lee no holds barred KO match

Posted on 2/14/14 at 2:00 pm to
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 2/14/14 at 2:00 pm to
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I'm sure he sparred and trained in all the different styles, but training and competing are two different things.


You don't take Chuck's word that he could have been world champion at his weight class? Now, that's point-fighting, with rules (not this hypothetical IRL stuff). He saw the guy/sparred with the guy all the time.

Just saying...
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 2/14/14 at 2:00 pm to
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Ha! Lee would be killed


why?
Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
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Posted on 2/14/14 at 2:01 pm to
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You don't think Lee could do a quick hold

What is this "quick hold" you speak of that could result in breaking someone's knee?
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kick to Tyson's knee and break it? really???

Jose Aldo has the best leg kicks in the world, at a comparable size to Lee. I might have missed it, but I am unaware of him ever breaking another man's leg with a single leg kick, and he's dished out thousands.

So, it is EXTREMELY unlikely that Lee would waltz in, and break Tyson's leg with a single blow.

You too much TV
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 2/14/14 at 2:02 pm to
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My issues and most others as well is he wasnt a fighter. He trained his arse off in fighting disciplines, but he didnt actually fight. Lee was a crossfitter basically, his sport was working out


This doesn't HAVE to have a bearing on the conversation.

See above, remove the name "Bruce Lee" from the equation or split your thinking two ways.
Posted by thetempleowl
dallas, tx
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 2/14/14 at 2:02 pm to
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he was 135 at the beginning of this thread, then 145, now 160.

When he gets to 195 or so, I think I´m taking Lee.


Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
39606 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 2:02 pm to
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If he can get him in a hold, sure. But I don't see him kicking and breaking Tyson's leg or knee. Lee pulling off a kneebar in a real fight is a different story.


First question is do we think if Lee gets a good kick on a knee, can he break it? I think everyone would agree he could.

Second question is do we think he could land that kick on Tyson? I would say that the chances are extremely good for him to be able to land that kick on somebody who has no real idea how to defend his lower half from any type of attack like that.
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 2/14/14 at 2:03 pm to
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You don't take Chuck's word that he could have been world champion at his weight class?
I'm sure he could have been world champ in his weight class. But until it's accomplished it's all guessing.
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 2/14/14 at 2:04 pm to
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why?
I think he's talking about Lee vs Fedor.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 2/14/14 at 2:05 pm to
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Jose Aldo has the best leg kicks in the world, at a comparable size to Lee. I might have missed it, but I am unaware of him ever breaking another man's leg with a single leg kick, and he's dished out thousands.


You keep saying leg. What are you referring to? I'm talking about the knee. Is Jose Aldo trying to break people's knees in his fights? I have no idea.



Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/14/14 at 2:05 pm to
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Second question is do we think he could land that kick on Tyson? I would say that the chances are extremely good for him to be able to land that kick on somebody who has no real idea how to defend his lower half from any type of attack like that.
And i would say the chances of the proven heavyweight boxer with the fastest and heaviest hands getting a punch in are even better
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 2/14/14 at 2:05 pm to
I said earlier that I'd have to pick Tyson, but some of you people are making the stupidest comments detracting Lee as just some actor or karate guy or whatever.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
39606 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 2:06 pm to
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I think he's talking about Lee vs Fedor.


He is, but he went into more about boxers and stuff too. I just want his reasoning.
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 2:06 pm to
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First question is do we think if Lee gets a good kick on a knee, can he break it? I think everyone would agree he could.
I absolutely disagree. I don't recall ever seeing the recipient of a leg kick in the UFC breaking said leg or knee.
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Second question is do we think he could land that kick on Tyson?
Could he land a leg kick on Tyson? Sure. Could he land your devastating, one-shot, leg-breaking kick? I don't think those exist.
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 2:07 pm to
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He is
So you want to know why Fedor would kill Lee?
Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
Reseda
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 2/14/14 at 2:07 pm to
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First question is do we think if Lee gets a good kick on a knee, can he break it? I think everyone would agree he could.

Second question is do we think he could land that kick on Tyson? I would say that the chances are extremely good for him to be able to land that kick on somebody who has no real idea how to defend his lower half from any type of attack like that.

What gives you the impression that Bruce Lee's leg kicks are light years ahead of today's best MMA fighters' leg kicks?
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
39606 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 2:07 pm to
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fastest and heaviest hands getting a punch in are even better


Heaviest, sure. Fastest??

I would love to see somebody try and get a good punch in on Bruce Lee before he could take out a leg or something. Again, I just don't see that happening.
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 2:08 pm to
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You keep saying leg. What are you referring to? I'm talking about the knee. Is Jose Aldo trying to break people's knees in his fights? I have no idea.

They don't train to kick knees. You know why? Because it hurts like hell. See Anderson Silva's last fight. Weidman trained to block Silva's kick with his knees. Result: Anderson broke his fricking leg on Weidman's knee.
This post was edited on 2/14/14 at 2:09 pm
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94685 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 2:08 pm to
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But until it's accomplished it's all guessing.


Did you read the thread title? Lee died about a month after Tyson's 7th birthday.

Isn't A LOT of this pure speculation? It is all we have to go on in this discussion.

Factually, they likely never could have faced in any sort of fair contest - Lee would have been well into his 40s when Tyson came of age - and was approaching 50 when Tyson peaked.

I think this thread was supposed to be about fun - some of ya'll take it a little too seriously - that's all I'm saying.
Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
Reseda
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 2/14/14 at 2:09 pm to
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You keep saying leg. What are you referring to? I'm talking about the knee. Is Jose Aldo trying to break people's knees in his fights? I have no idea.

Yeah

You should go away now
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108178 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 2:09 pm to
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I would love to see somebody try and get a good punch in on Bruce Lee before he could take out a leg or something. Again, I just don't see that happening.
My main issue is the Tyson supporters have actually seen and witnessed Tyson take out professional fighters many times. The Lee supporters rely on hearsay, training videos, and unicorn farts
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