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Self Driving Cars - quick question

Posted on 12/2/22 at 12:31 pm
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 12/2/22 at 12:31 pm
In today's world, nobody drives the speed limit. Everybody speeds. I drive the interstate here in Greensboro to commute every day. Speed limit is 65. Everyone drives 75-80.

Long trips as well. We just got back from Alabama. 620 miles. 75-80 all the way. Couldn't imagine driving 65 all the way.

I'm guessing self driving cars are programmed not to exceed the speed limit.

How are people going to deal with their vehicle staying on the speed limit? Taking longer to get to places. Just the feeling of going "slow".
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
11508 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 12:34 pm to
Tesla has toggled on and off the feature to speed several times. Maybe today but maybe not tomorrow??? It is probably more common to be restricted to the speed limit though.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
35348 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 12:34 pm to
If and when we get to a place where all/most vehicles on the road are self driving and connected, then that in theory should eliminate wrecks and other causes of congestion.

So you’re may not ever hit 80+ but your average speed may be similar or even higher on road trips.

We are a loooooong way from that though
Posted by Tony The Tiger
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Sep 2003
2593 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 12:36 pm to
If all cars are self-driving, then theoretically the speed limit could be much higher. It is limited to 65-70 partly due to human error.

In current self-driving cars, you can set the speed much higher than the limit and the vehicle will dynamically speed up/slow down depending on traffic.
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
26608 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 12:43 pm to
One thing I don't have to worry about. I'll be dead before I ever step into a "self-driving" car.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
24751 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 12:43 pm to
quote:

If all cars are self-driving, then theoretically the speed limit could be much higher. It is limited to 65-70 partly due to human error.


Good points in all the replies. But like Johnny said, it depends on the % of self driving cars, otherwise the speed limits will remain if not everyone has autonomous cars, and the issue of speed limits will exist. Could be a very long transition period. More than likely 10+ years after the trend to autonomous vehicles really starts.
This post was edited on 12/2/22 at 12:45 pm
Posted by GeauxGoose
Nonya
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 12/2/22 at 12:44 pm to
Not to a derail thread, but your question raised another one in me. When/if it gets to that point, do we still need car insurance? Who is at fault in a wreck? Not me if I'm not driving
Posted by mmonro3
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2013
3926 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 12:46 pm to
quote:

do we still need car insurance?

They will still get there money somewhere somehow
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
24751 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 12:47 pm to
quote:

Not to a derail thread, but your question raised another one in me. When/if it gets to that point, do we still need car insurance? Who is at fault in a wreck? Not me if I'm not driving


Car manufacturer maybe? That is interesting.

I guess you can think of it as a part failing on a car causing a wreck. I'm guessing the manufacturers are sued in those circumstances?

I've never dealt with a situation like that.
This post was edited on 12/2/22 at 12:49 pm
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
12512 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 12:49 pm to
You can override it and tell it how fast to go. My wife just got the new FSD and it’s pretty good.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
24751 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 12:49 pm to
What's an FSD?

Oh okay, a Tesla. I don't keep up much..
This post was edited on 12/2/22 at 12:51 pm
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
12512 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 12:50 pm to
Full self drive
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
7532 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 12:51 pm to
quote:

Who is at fault in a wreck? Not me if I'm not driving



guessing it'll be like if someone gets hurt at your house, even if you're not the one at fault.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
24751 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 12:51 pm to
My wife has an outback. It has driver assist. I don't like it, but it's different than a FSD of course.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
16416 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 12:51 pm to
quote:

How are people going to deal with their vehicle staying on the speed limit? Taking longer to get to places. Just the feeling of going "slow".

That assumes they will actually pay attention once the car becomes self-driving. Hell, they barely pay attention with full control behind the wheel.

The aggravating part is when the car "sees" the wrong speed limit. Regardless of the time of day or day of the week, when I drive through a school zone, my car's pop-up display defaults to the school zone speed.

What happens when you roll through that construction zone that wants to drop the speed limit 10-20 mph when workers are present. Will it automatically assume that's the speed limit even if no one is there; or will the car whip through the construction zone at the normal speed limit even with workers present?
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
12512 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 12:53 pm to
quote:

My wife has an outback. It has driver assist. I don't like it, but it's different than a FSD of course.

I rent a log of cars when I travel and I hate the driver assist stuff but the Tesla system is actually really good. The autopilot is great and now the full self drive will even turn right on red with no driver input if you want it to.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
24751 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 12:53 pm to
quote:

guessing it'll be like if someone gets hurt at your house, even if you're not the one at fault.


I remember stories that came out back in the day about self driving cars getting into accidents just running into other vehicles. Wonder how that was worked out.

Guessing those may have been test vehicles or trial programs, so it could be irrelevant.
Posted by Delacroix22
Member since Aug 2013
3956 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 12:54 pm to
Don’t get on an airplane anytime soon
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
7006 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 12:56 pm to
It's unsafe not to go with the traffic flow. I'm 100% against any kind of automated driving. If been driving for over 50 years and I've not used cruise control even once.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
16416 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 1:00 pm to
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I remember stories that came out back in the day about self driving cars getting into accidents just running into other vehicles. Wonder how that was worked out.

If it was in actual traffic, the liability would fall on the driver and/or car owner. With the way they are set-up with so few FSD vehicles, they still have a requirement/clause that it's the driver's duty to pay attention to traffic and not be fully reliant on the vehicle.

Few years ago my boss wanted to buy a Tesla and limo tint the car just so she could sleep during her commute to/from the Northshore to downtown NOLA. She was pissed when she saw some reviews about having to keep her hands on the steering wheel, she bought an Audi instead
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