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re: Seeing a lot of restaurants are having trouble hiring workers
Posted on 5/3/21 at 12:14 am to tigerskin
Posted on 5/3/21 at 12:14 am to tigerskin
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The government still paying people to stay home?
That's part of it.
Another is that when Covid shut everything down, an lot of the people in the industry took the opportunity to get out of the industry or move away.
If the government is still paying people to stay home, it's amazing that it's only the ones who are experienced and good at the job.
We have a revolving door of workers who have no skills whatsoever.
I had to show a guy how to use a knife to slice a chicken the other day. He was slamming it down on the chicken like a hammer.
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Posted on 5/3/21 at 12:21 am to magildachunks
I was having a conversation with another manager at a bar. He is having to show people how to use a broom. Also had a bus boy who called out for 3 of his shifts his first week. Pitched a fit because his check was small. He was expecting to get paid for what he was scheduled and not what he worked.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 12:25 am to jmarto1
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Also had a bus boy who called out for 3 of his shifts his first week. Pitched a fit because his check was small. He was expecting to get paid for what he was scheduled and not what he worked.
At least he showed up.
We have people who show up for the interview, accept the job, fill out the paperwork...
Never show up for their first shift.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 12:27 am to magildachunks
Restaurants are paying for you just to do an interview. They want the chance to get you to work that bad. I'm wondering if they are resorting to time share tactics
Posted on 5/3/21 at 12:28 am to magildachunks
I think we pinpointed the biggest problem with the workforce these days tough:
Most of the people applying for the jobs are ex-dishwashers who are moving up by default because the experienced people aren't around anymore for one reason or another.
So they apply for line cook or prep cook and get hired, but don't tell us that they have no experience.
And that's the problem. Because if they tell us that, we are willing to train them. But if we think they are experienced, we are going to throw you to the wolves and see if you can handle it.
Most of the people applying for the jobs are ex-dishwashers who are moving up by default because the experienced people aren't around anymore for one reason or another.
So they apply for line cook or prep cook and get hired, but don't tell us that they have no experience.
And that's the problem. Because if they tell us that, we are willing to train them. But if we think they are experienced, we are going to throw you to the wolves and see if you can handle it.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 12:29 am to tigerskin
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The government still paying people to stay home?
Yep, they got their stimulus with 1400$ x 6-8 plus unemployment bennies... more than they make ina year. Some restaurants here are taking days off because they can’t find help
This post was edited on 5/3/21 at 12:30 am
Posted on 5/3/21 at 12:34 am to tigerskin
Hate to be that guy, but maybe, just maybe, if you’d pay them more than 7.25 a fricking hour they’d work.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 12:37 am to ColdTurkey
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Hate to be that guy, but maybe, just maybe, if you’d pay them more than 7.25 a fricking hour they’d work.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 12:38 am to DaBeerz
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unemployment bennie
I'm waiting to see the fallout from this.
The most weeks you can recieve from unemplyoment in a year is 26. And you have to work without using those benefits about 3-4 years to build that timeframe up.
These people who are still staying on it, like my old roommate and his girl are going to be in for a rude awakening when it goes away and they have trouble finding a job because they didn't work for almost two years, and they have no UE benefits built up because they used them all.
I mean, it seriously takes almost 4 years of full employment just to get the full timeframe, not the full amount.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 12:39 am to SuperSaint
Get what you pay for. Try paying someone $12-13 instead of 7.25.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 12:39 am to HempHead
quote:That sounds pretty awesome
My new gig in MT is really hurting for folks. I haven't bartended in about 3 years, and have never done any kind of event coordination in my life, but they still hired me from two zoom calls. I'm getting $24 an hour, tips, private employee housing, and lift privileges all for slinging drinks and making sure somebody's baw retreat goes as planned.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 12:43 am to ColdTurkey
I start at 12 in the kitchen. Girls on the floor make $20/hr easily. What is the amount that I have to pay to compete with doing nothing and getting paid?
This post was edited on 5/3/21 at 12:43 am
Posted on 5/3/21 at 12:43 am to ColdTurkey
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Hate to be that guy, but maybe, just maybe, if you’d pay them more than 7.25 a fricking hour they’d work.
Not gonna lie, pay rate is a problem.
I left the industry for about three years in 2016. When I left, a new hire with minimal experience wouldget started on the line at $12/hour.
When I came back in 2019, that dropped to $10/hour, 11 with experience.
I asked a friend who managed a kitchen what the deal was, and he said that the market was flooded with workers, so they could get away with it.
That's not the case any more. But the starting being offered is still 10 and 11.
If you want good workers, you have to pay for them. But I'm not in the position to make that call.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 12:47 am to jmarto1
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What is the amount that I have to pay to compete with doing nothing and getting paid?
Right now I’d say you have to pay enough to beat UE and stimulus benefits enough to make it worth leaving the house and paying for gas and maintenance on a vehicle. When the Covid bennies go away you can lower wages again to what unskilled workers are actually worth.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 12:48 am to Lance Cooley
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That sounds pretty awesome
I sure hope it is.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 12:49 am to Lance Cooley
Same thing thar happened after Katrina. If they were forward thinking they would get the job to lock in the higher wage
Posted on 5/3/21 at 12:51 am to HempHead
I’m just going to assume your life will be exactly like the movie Out Cold
Posted on 5/3/21 at 2:45 am to Lance Cooley
quote:Let's hope it's not a Cliff Hanger
I’m just going to assume your life will be exactly like the movie Out Cold
Posted on 5/3/21 at 2:50 am to HempHead
quote:
My new gig in MT is really hurting for folks. I haven't bartended in about 3 years, and have never done any kind of event coordination in my life, but they still hired me from two zoom calls. I'm getting $24 an hour, tips, private employee housing, and lift privileges all for slinging drinks and making sure somebody's baw retreat goes as planned.
Link?
Posted on 5/3/21 at 2:52 am to BPTiger
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It is always almost impossible to hire a competent adult in the food service industry
To do what?
And for how much?
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