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re: Secretary at Ouachita Junior High text racial slur to wrong person concerning MLK Day.

Posted on 1/17/23 at 11:24 am to
Posted by GhostofLesticleMiles
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Posted on 1/17/23 at 11:24 am to
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I can't think of any racial slurs that are treated the way the n word is. My company it's an automatic firing using the n word unless you're black. When HR covered this they actually used wetback, jap, wop, etc when making examples but wouldn't say the n word.


So would it be safe to say that we have a double standard when it comes to using certain slurs as LNCHBOX has stated?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/17/23 at 11:25 am to
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Pointing out that non-whites in positions of power get away with much worse on a daily basis isn't defending racism, it is decrying racism.

Not necessarily, and it's a non sequitur regardless.

The whole reason you get a "not necessarily" is because there isn't a blatant, reported incident to even compare this to.
Posted by oogabooga68
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Posted on 1/17/23 at 11:26 am to
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especially here in the south, is that white people don't want to think of themselves or their ancestors as "bad" people for saying a word that their parents used, their grandparents used, and in some cases they continue to use.


My friend, Yankees are some of the most openly racist people you will ever meet.

Posted by oogabooga68
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Posted on 1/17/23 at 11:27 am to
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Not necessarily, and it's a non sequitur regardless.



Wrong....

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The whole reason you get a "not necessarily" is because there isn't a blatant, reported incident to even compare this to.


Wrong again....
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/17/23 at 11:28 am to
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So would it be safe to say that we have a double standard when it comes to using certain slurs as LNCHBOX has stated?


Sure. The only non-hypocrites are dead people.

The problem is that what does this "argument" achieve? Do you have a desire to drop N-bombs like the lady in OP? If not, why do you care so much about a double-standard with this word in particular?
Posted by GhostofLesticleMiles
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Posted on 1/17/23 at 11:28 am to
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My friend, Yankees are some of the most openly racist people you will ever meet.


I can confirm this from my experiences spent in the North East. It is pretty damn bad.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/17/23 at 11:28 am to
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There are probably multiple reasons behind it, but I suspect a primary one, especially here in the south, is that white people don't want to think of themselves or their ancestors as "bad" people for saying a word that their parents used, their grandparents used, and in some cases they continue to use. It's easy for people identify with the secretary, and admitting it might get them labeled racist. (Not judging here - just stating an observation).



What the frick is this bullshite? You think hard R's are only dropped in the south?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/17/23 at 11:28 am to
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Wrong again....

Show me the blatant racist incident reported that was linked in this thread.
Posted by oogabooga68
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Posted on 1/17/23 at 11:29 am to
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If not, why do you care so much about a double-standard with this word in particular?


Because it's part of a larger, more nefarious mindset and movement.

You can't be this dense.

Do I need to post the "it's not about the nail" video for you?

Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/17/23 at 11:30 am to
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The problem is that what does this "argument" achieve? Do you have a desire to drop N-bombs like the lady in OP? If not, why do you care so much about a double-standard with this word in particular?


I Would like equal treatment. Everyone should be playing by the same rules when the consequences involve having your life ruined.
Posted by S
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Posted on 1/17/23 at 11:30 am to
She used it with the R at the end too

Im not reading all of this but im sure the TD N-word whataboutism is strong as usual
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 1/17/23 at 11:30 am to
of course there is a double standard. I think it is stupid to say but i am not sure people should lose their life/job over a word. She is obviously an idiot but I also think the coach could have tried to handle it without costing someone their job. I am not offendable though and believe people should just treat it as the person who said it is ignorant. Saying a word doesn't make them a racist...hating a group of people for their skin color does.
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 1/17/23 at 11:30 am to
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What the frick is this bullshite? You think hard R's are only dropped in the south?

Growing up, a good friend of mine’s parents were from Boston. They were racist as hell.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/17/23 at 11:31 am to
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Because it's part of a larger, more nefarious mindset and movement.

Then why not directly address that nefarious mindset and movement?

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You can't be this dense.

I'm not. I'm just not a person who constructs bad arguments and strategies.

You gain nothing in addressing the larger issue by building a hill to die on regarding the N-word.

You risk implicitly defending actual racism (like many in this thread).

Tell me how that strategy is logical, rational, and +EV?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/17/23 at 11:31 am to
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Im not reading all of this but im sure the TD N-word whataboutism is strong as usual




You'd be wrong.
Posted by CaptainsWafer
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Posted on 1/17/23 at 11:31 am to
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That's probably because cracker isn't even a racial slur.


THE HELL IT ISNT
Posted by c on z
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Posted on 1/17/23 at 11:31 am to
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My friend, Yankees are some of the most openly racist people you will ever meet.

There’s overt and covert racism. They all are equally bad.
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 1/17/23 at 11:32 am to
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My friend, Yankees are some of the most openly racist people you will ever meet.


Truth. In the south, you will live around, work with, socialize with people of all colors and hues.

In the south, the racism is more casual and worn on the sleeve.

As a poster here once said
"He's not as racist as you think he is, and he's not as racist as he thinks he is."

Because when the chips are down and people need help, like after a storm, nobody Cares what color you are. People are just helping.


You might not like certain segments of people, but it's almost never completely based on race and you'll have people of different races than you that you are close friends with and generally like.


Because it's about character and how people treat you. And even the ones you don't like you'll generally tolerate.



Up north, there's way less social mixing and WAY more harsh and open racism behind closed doors.

You want to see real racism? Get some liberal Yankees in private where they think you share their secret views and have your mind blown. They make the most dyed in the wool southern racist look reasonable
This post was edited on 1/17/23 at 11:34 am
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/17/23 at 11:32 am to
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You risk implicitly defending actual racism (like many in this thread).


You are such a fricking weasel Only a c on z level retard reads this thread and see defense of racism.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 1/17/23 at 11:33 am to
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they have tried to make Honky and cracker offensive to white people but we laugh it off.


I miss getting called Honkey. I just took it as slang for white dude, which I was.

In HS, there used to be joke sessions with black dudes where we would trade lines. Many were the same joke, just the races changed. Even comedians were very anti PC. People laughed at themselves.

Don Rickles would be considered Hitler if his act were going today.
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