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re: Seattle Autonomous Zone now has a warlord. It’s been 2 days.

Posted on 6/11/20 at 9:36 am to
Posted by LSUAlum2001
Stavro Mueller Beta
Member since Aug 2003
47138 posts
Posted on 6/11/20 at 9:36 am to
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The business owner wanting further clarity and specific terms for his shakedown demands?


Clarity: "If you don't pay us $500... (The 6 men start smashing shite) ...this will happen."

Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35528 posts
Posted on 6/11/20 at 9:37 am to
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But I'm just here in the Chicago suburbs enjoying every minute of it.
Hell, I'm in the Seattle suburbs and I'm loving every minute. You guys think you hate Seattle? You should talk to people around here who get fricked by them on a daily basis.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51387 posts
Posted on 6/11/20 at 9:40 am to
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Hell, I'm in the Seattle suburbs and I'm loving every minute. You guys think you hate Seattle?


Looking at the pictures of this, I see a bunch of uppity white people bringing gentrification to the BLM movement.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
25534 posts
Posted on 6/11/20 at 9:42 am to
I asked this earlier...I’ll try again since you live there.

Is there a middle class up there? Fiancé and I are both teachers, considering a move. I can’t imagine our modest salaries net a decent house up there, yeah?
Posted by Niner
Member since Apr 2019
2026 posts
Posted on 6/11/20 at 9:43 am to
Had no idea until last night that this was going on. I have not been able to pick my jaw off the floor yet.

The short-sightedness of this whole shenanigan is astounding.

Let me get this straight - it seems to me that if anyone is thinking long-term here (most aren't, I know), they are trying to essentially establish a new nation...by walling themselves off...using homemade barricades..."led" by a 2-day old mafia...in the middle of the most powerful country in the world...currently supplied by the most powerful country in the world (water, electricity, waste disposal, etc.)...and demanding said country just give them the land.

I mean...I am truly having a hard time comprehending the stupidity involved here.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35528 posts
Posted on 6/11/20 at 9:44 am to
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I asked this earlier...I’ll try again since you live there.

Is there a middle class up there? Fiancé and I are both teachers, considering a move. I can’t imagine our modest salaries net a decent house up there, yeah?
Sure. Most of the burbs are middle class. My kids teachers must live somewhere around here.

My town, University Place, is pretty much exclusively middle class. We don't have any really ritzy areas but we don't have any run down areas either. You're probably going to pay a higher percentage of your income on housing, but not ridiculously so. 400k can still get you a very nice house in a lot of areas.
This post was edited on 6/11/20 at 9:50 am
Posted by Niner
Member since Apr 2019
2026 posts
Posted on 6/11/20 at 9:47 am to
Only livestream I can find right now, with a CHAZ resident periodically enjoying his mocha latte from Starbucks.

13th and Pine--Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone, Seattle, WA (Formerly Police Barrier)
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
25534 posts
Posted on 6/11/20 at 9:48 am to
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Sure. Most of the burbs are middle class. My kids teachers must live somewhere around here


True. They have to have a bed to sleep in also. Just seems like every place we check has some extremely high housing prices. I’m no OT baller, unfortunately.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 6/11/20 at 9:48 am to
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Can a married couple of two teachers afford to live in Seattle or naw?



In Seattle? Depends on where. You can live in the burbs too, but the commute is fricking hell.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
25534 posts
Posted on 6/11/20 at 9:49 am to
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but the commute is fricking hell.


I assume it can be. She was ready to have me trucking an hour each way across San Antonio.

Time to research the suburbs up there.
This post was edited on 6/11/20 at 9:51 am
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116322 posts
Posted on 6/11/20 at 9:51 am to
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I mean...I am truly having a hard time comprehending the stupidity involved here.


Are they really that stupid if the government is doing literally nothing about it, and letting them do it, and have all of the power and water they want?

(I mean, they are still stupid, but its not like the feckless Seattle gov't is doing anything about it)
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35528 posts
Posted on 6/11/20 at 9:51 am to
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crazy4lsu
You still here in UP or did you make the move?
Posted by Niner
Member since Apr 2019
2026 posts
Posted on 6/11/20 at 9:58 am to
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Are they really that stupid if the government is doing literally nothing about it, and letting them do it, and have all of the power and water they want?

(I mean, they are still stupid, but its not like the feckless Seattle gov't is doing anything about it)

Sadly this is true, but the Seattle gov't can't sit idly for much longer. They have to commit one way or another.

When does the Seattle gov't inaction bring Federal consequences?
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 6/11/20 at 9:58 am to
Is there a border map of the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone?
Posted by bopper50
Sugarland Texas
Member since Mar 2009
9208 posts
Posted on 6/11/20 at 10:00 am to
They need to take a flamethrower to that whole mess up there.

A Warlord in Texas would last about 5 seconds.
Posted by Niner
Member since Apr 2019
2026 posts
Posted on 6/11/20 at 10:01 am to
Only one I could find.



EDIT: Anyone else find it funny they refer to the police as the "Regime"?
This post was edited on 6/11/20 at 10:03 am
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116322 posts
Posted on 6/11/20 at 10:03 am to
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When does the Seattle gov't inaction bring Federal consequences?


They want the feds to come in so they aren't seen as responsible for it to their nutcase constituents and you have the optics of the feds coming in and taking down "peaceful protestors".

Let them rot. I hope they never go in. This is Seattle's problem.
Posted by LSUJML
BR
Member since May 2008
46334 posts
Posted on 6/11/20 at 10:04 am to
Posted by Niner
Member since Apr 2019
2026 posts
Posted on 6/11/20 at 10:05 am to
Another one:

Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
18073 posts
Posted on 6/11/20 at 10:06 am to
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When does the Seattle gov't inaction bring Federal consequences?


Considering the supreme court ruled police are not required to enforce laws or protect citizens, I would say it isn't a far reach to assume they would also rule the government in general is not required to protect citizens.

At a fundamental level this makes sense because it is similar to saying healthcare is a right. If healthcare is a right and nobody wanted to be doctors, the government would have to force or enslave people to be doctors. Not realistic.

I can see the same argument for protecting the public. If it is required to by law and nobody wants to do it, they'd be forced to enslave folks to be cops.

Don't be surprised if the government is never held accountable by itself. It can realistically only be done by voters. I guess that is the way it was designed to be anyway.
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