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re: Scientists believe they have discovered the analog of vowels in whale language.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 7:22 pm to Darth_Vader
Posted on 12/7/23 at 7:22 pm to Darth_Vader
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I’ve always wondered who decided to name them this and what lead them to it.
Oh! I know this one. Their heads are filled with a waxy substance called spermaceti. From the Latin meaning "whale's seed".
Has nothing to do with Sperm though.
Although the linguistic root of sperm is the same.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:16 pm to TigerinATL
They must not have been observing whales in the Balkans.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:56 pm to TigerinATL
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healthy adults having no known predator
what about humans?
Posted on 12/7/23 at 9:31 pm to Darth_Vader
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Sperm whales
I’ve always wondered who decided to name them this and what lead them to it.
Scientists were inspired by their time on Plenty of Fish
Posted on 12/7/23 at 9:34 pm to Darth_Vader
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I’ve always wondered who decided to name them this and what lead them to it.


Posted on 12/7/23 at 10:20 pm to TigerinATL
Brian Regan does a funny bit about this.
Brian Regan - Whale Noises
Brian Regan - Whale Noises
This post was edited on 12/7/23 at 10:24 pm
Posted on 12/7/23 at 11:31 pm to TigerinATL
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dipthongs
Sisqo used to sing about these.

Posted on 12/8/23 at 1:47 am to TigerinATL
Sperm Whales are fascinating creatures diving to depths as deep as 10,000 feet to hunt and eat their favorite food, giant squid. In pitch black darkness they use sonar to locate and catch them.
Scanned the paper and similar to so many academic publications, its conclusions are in search of additional funding for more research; boat time is expensive.
That whale sonar "clicks" have properties of acoustic focused FSK modulation isn't new, but seems so to these biologists and linguistic scientists.
Send the data set with acquisition parameters to the Naval Research Lab and they'll give you a better answer in a few days. MIT can do this as well, among others.
They also make simple editing mistakes, as I doubt this statement is intentional.
"The hearing ability of sperm whales is strong in the frequency range where we observe the patterns, and it can exceed 30 kHz (Schmidt et al., 2018). The difference is perceptible even to human listeners."
The upper limit of a teenager's hearing is around 20khz, rarely to 28khz, degrading with age by your fifties to around 12khz.
And," it is likely that these properties get distorted at distance, but the effects of distance are currently difficult to estimate." No, otherwise the techniques used in ocean exploration geophysics and military submarine sonars would not be possible.
We've long known that whales communicate in complex sonar terms. Correlating that with observed behavior is the ultimate unknown.
Ocean Acoustic Physics Nerd button ON [OFF]
As ny Brit colleagues are fond of saying, this paper is new money for old rope.
Scanned the paper and similar to so many academic publications, its conclusions are in search of additional funding for more research; boat time is expensive.
That whale sonar "clicks" have properties of acoustic focused FSK modulation isn't new, but seems so to these biologists and linguistic scientists.
Send the data set with acquisition parameters to the Naval Research Lab and they'll give you a better answer in a few days. MIT can do this as well, among others.
They also make simple editing mistakes, as I doubt this statement is intentional.
"The hearing ability of sperm whales is strong in the frequency range where we observe the patterns, and it can exceed 30 kHz (Schmidt et al., 2018). The difference is perceptible even to human listeners."
The upper limit of a teenager's hearing is around 20khz, rarely to 28khz, degrading with age by your fifties to around 12khz.
And," it is likely that these properties get distorted at distance, but the effects of distance are currently difficult to estimate." No, otherwise the techniques used in ocean exploration geophysics and military submarine sonars would not be possible.
We've long known that whales communicate in complex sonar terms. Correlating that with observed behavior is the ultimate unknown.
Ocean Acoustic Physics Nerd button ON [OFF]

As ny Brit colleagues are fond of saying, this paper is new money for old rope.
Posted on 12/8/23 at 2:15 am to LittleJerrySeinfield
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Never seen this one and I'm a little ashamed of how long it took me to get it.

Posted on 12/8/23 at 3:28 am to Mr Breeze
Your Brit friends should have published first then.
Posted on 12/8/23 at 8:27 am to TigerinATL
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Scientists believe they have discovered the analog of vowels in whale language.
Coming soon:
Local whale cancelled for "hate speech" against sharks
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