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re: SC Governor supports removing the Confederate Flag from The Citadel

Posted on 6/2/16 at 4:52 pm to
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
84835 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 4:52 pm to
Probably greatest president of all time.
Posted by JumpingTheShark
America
Member since Nov 2012
24863 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 4:57 pm to
Oh is it a woman?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91871 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 4:59 pm to
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So sick of the SJW horseshite trying to delete history.


Dear Lord. My two biggest "anti-confederate flag of any kind" points are this:

1) Many people who support it say it's just a flag and it is stupid to get you're feelings hurt over a flag and a flag can't be racist and all kinds of other dumb shite. However, if it is so important to keep it up then surely you can appreciate that it would be so important to tear it down to others. You cannot simultaneously lambast them for getting offended over a "piece of cloth" while fighting tooth ant nail to keep said piece of cloth flying.

2) Even if you argue that it wasn't a symbol of racism from the start, it has come to represent racism and that's enough for me. 95 out of 100 people that fly it are racist AF and we all know it.

On another note, as I've said every time this shite comes up, most supporters would lose their mind if Nazi battle flags flew over garrisons in Germany. Even worse, if a 2nd generation German decided to display his "pride" for his grandfather who fought and died in WWII by displaying the Nazi battle flag above his home in Walker, LA he'd probably be dragged into the street and beaten to death.

Oh, and spare me the "Civil War wasn't about slavery" line that gets brought up in these discussions.
Posted by tigeroarz1
Winston-Salem, NC
Member since Oct 2013
3932 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 5:35 pm to
That's the Army of Northern Virginia battle flag anyway.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 5:39 pm to
more meaningless horse shite as the country circles the drain

but she is oh so "brave"
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
Member since Aug 2009
25057 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 5:44 pm to
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Maybe they can trade the Confederate flag with LSU for the cannon that fired on Ft. Sumter that Sherman gave to yall.




Ames cannons, 1861. Highly polished. According to plaque on cannon, These cannons fired at Fort Sumter and presented to University by General W.T. Sherman after the Civil War

Another history states General Sherman donated two cannons to the institution. These cannons had been captured from Confederate forces who had used them to start the war when fired at Fort Sumter, SC. They are still displayed in front of LSU's Military Science building.
Posted by tigersownall
Thibodaux
Member since Sep 2011
17202 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 6:16 pm to
Go suck a dick you yank jabroney
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
Member since Aug 2009
25057 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 7:14 pm to
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Not his fault Richt lost control


OMFG! That's prolly the best use of that over-used phrase ever!

Posted by LongueCarabine
Pointe Aux Pins, LA
Member since Jan 2011
8205 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 9:21 pm to
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The fact that that has to be spoonfed to people blows my freaking mind


Well then, name a Confederate, any Confederate, who was convicted of treason. It shouldn't be very difficult since you think you know what treason is.

LC
Posted by tennvol
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 6/2/16 at 9:23 pm to
She should remove herself from this world.
Posted by RedRifle
Austin/NO
Member since Dec 2013
8335 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 9:24 pm to
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slackster


Well said.
Posted by tennvol
Member since Nov 2014
2495 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 9:29 pm to
To hell with PC, the time is nearing when people like you will be pushed aside.
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
27509 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 9:42 pm to
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Well then, name a Confederate, any Confederate, who was convicted of treason. It shouldn't be very difficult since you think you know what treason is.



You can thank Lincoln for that: Proclamation for Amnesty and Reconstruction

Eta: Along with that actual proclamation, that did not include every Confederate, Lincoln was far more conciliatory than he had to be.
This post was edited on 6/2/16 at 9:46 pm
Posted by beachreb61
Long Beach, MS
Member since Nov 2009
1715 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 10:48 pm to
[quote] No. The state's surrendered, agrees to the terms of surrender and were readmitted into the Union. [/quote

Yet the argument given by Lincoln to justify the war was that it was a civil war. States weren't allowed to leave.

So if the resulting war led to them having to be re-admitted? How does this work?
Posted by WalkingTurtles
Alexandria
Member since Jan 2013
5913 posts
Posted on 6/3/16 at 7:30 am to
I believe it's proven that there were some legal justifications for leaving the Union. The Civil War was unique that despite the ferocity and hate of the fighting that took place, there was still honor and respect among the combatants, for the most part. There was a lot of pride of those in the South who rebelled against the power of the federal government. There was also respect from the North because they got their arses kicked a good bit of the time.

I know smart arses will come here and yell treason like some radical SJW and talk about slavery and that's fine, it's ignorant none the less. Was the Confederacy concerned about slavery? Yes it was one of their cornerstones of their government, however the North went to war as Lincoln described to "preserve the Union." He only freed the slaves to prevent any and all European intervention. Lincoln himself said that whites were superior.

Also, in "preserving the Union" Lincoln violated many rights of citizens as well as helping shape such illegal acts as income tax. The Federal Governments power grew exponentially during the Civil War. Let's not call him some great hero.
Posted by beachreb61
Long Beach, MS
Member since Nov 2009
1715 posts
Posted on 6/4/16 at 1:06 am to
A big thumbs up to one who understands and can articulate it well.
Posted by Gcockboi
Rock Hill
Member since Oct 2012
7689 posts
Posted on 6/4/16 at 2:02 am to
Nikki is a c unt and I disavowed her years ago.
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