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re: Sandy Hook conspiracy theorist is proud to harass families of children who were killed

Posted on 6/15/22 at 4:19 pm to
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 6/15/22 at 4:19 pm to
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Did I do it right?

Have you answered the direct and specific questions that I and others have asked?

If not, then no, you haven’t. You’re just a troll, at best.
This post was edited on 6/15/22 at 4:21 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/15/22 at 4:19 pm to
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Tsk tsk tsk, the board isn't going to like you saying you don't know, there isn't enough truth to make a sound conclusion. That's whacko, leftist, conspiracy kook, mumbo jumbo.


Did I do it right?

Sandy Hook is very straightforward with a lot of publicly-available evidence. For a CT, it's boring and morphing it into a larger plot makes no sense.

The Vegas shooting is not straightforward, has a much more censored amount of publicly-available information, and has so many questions it is naturally open to craft larger plots around it.

Like I said earlier, Sandy Hook truthers are completely irrational. If they want CTs, there are much better ones to devote personal resources towards.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/15/22 at 4:21 pm to
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Have you answered the direct and specific questions that I and others have asked?

His #1 alternative, non-mainstream explanation for Sandy Hook was pedophilia.

So he's answered, but not well.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37369 posts
Posted on 6/15/22 at 4:23 pm to
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His #1 alternative, non-mainstream explanation for Sandy Hook was pedophilia. So he's answered, but not well.

No he hasn’t, at all.

The questions are:

Does he think Adam Lanza killed 20 kids at Sandy Hook?

What specific facts as presented by the media or government regarding Sandy Hook does he think are suspicious or worthy of scrutiny?


He hasn’t directly answered either question.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
59247 posts
Posted on 6/15/22 at 4:23 pm to
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Again, you simple fricks provide links from 2014 inwhich hardly any of those posters are still here.



You posted

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No one that I have seen has posted that conspiracy theory


Links get provided and then you throw a fit about the years they were made?
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 6/15/22 at 4:24 pm to
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His (allegedly) missing hard drive

The FBI officially finding no motive

I think he had basically no online presence, pictures, references etc. immediately after the shooting.


I mean a crazy right-wing conspiracist destroying his harddrive before committing his act isnt exactly super compelling evidence of larger conspiracy, or foul play. Same goes for lack of clear motive(though there is unsealed documents suggesting some influencing factors LINK

He's a more unique case for sure, but nothing that rises to the level of credible evidence of outside influence or conspiracy.
Posted by TX Tiger
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/15/22 at 4:30 pm to
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Sandy Hook is very straightforward with a lot of publicly-available evidence.
Since you claim to have all the answers, I have a few questions.

It's been a long time since I even thought about Sandy Hook, but thinking back I wondered about the bodies and more specifically the burials. Weren't some of the families not allowed to see the bodies because they were too gruesome?
Weren't some of the burials closed casket for the same reason?

I was into it when it happened, but that's been a long time ago and so many more distractions since.

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Sandy Hook truthers are completely irrational.
There are irrational people in every group. What does that prove, other than people are irrational at every turn?
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37369 posts
Posted on 6/15/22 at 4:38 pm to
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I have a few questions.

Oh how convenient.

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Weren't some of the families not allowed to see the bodies because they were too gruesome? Weren't some of the burials closed casket for the same reason?

Yes to both, as is, has, and always will be the case. The families were not allowed to see the bodies AT THE SCENE because of the nature of what occurred there. Again, completely and 100% standard practice.

Closed casket funerals for the same reason.

Please link any information you find that families were prevented from ever viewing the bodies and NOT just prevented from viewing them at the scene.
This post was edited on 6/15/22 at 4:40 pm
Posted by HouseMom
Member since Jun 2020
1933 posts
Posted on 6/15/22 at 4:50 pm to
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This has nothing to do with the topic at hand


It was a bit of an off-topic statement, but I happen to believe that our disgusting abortion statistics say quite a bit about who we are as a country. "We" ultimately view children as disposable.

I was merely pointing out that parents, unfortunately, kill their children all of the time. I wasn't referencing Sandy Hook.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 6/15/22 at 5:31 pm to
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Again, you simple fricks provide links from 2014 inwhich hardly any of those posters are still here.



Well that’s the time when sandy hook would more likely to be discussed

You could make an argument that politalk far more sane back then too because they didn’t have a guy to rally behind and weren’t complete wing cucks

This post was edited on 6/15/22 at 6:05 pm
Posted by 12
Redneck part of Florida
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 6/15/22 at 5:44 pm to
Hopefully she will get murdered.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
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Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 6/15/22 at 5:59 pm to
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I also believe people use empathy wrong.

I dont have kids, i could never know what it feels like to have my kid shot by their classmate. There is no frame of reference there.


Empathy is when you have zero experience with a particular situation but are able to put yourself in another person's shoes (mentally) to try to understand what they're going through.

Sympathy is what you're describing. Having sympathy means you've been through a similar experience (losing a parent, losing a child, getting divorced, etc.) and are personally familiar with the feelings a person is experiencing.
Posted by VABuckeye
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/15/22 at 7:56 pm to
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Could have been one or a combination of any motives.

1. Pedophilia - Were some (or all) of these kids killed, or were they kidnapped? Pedophilia is too big to fail in this country. Were the bodies replaced with others? It's been quite a while since the event, but I seem to recall something about some of the parents weren't allowed to see the bodies because they were too "messy" to view. I also recall some were closed casket funerals for the same reason.
I almost hope these kids were killed, because the alternative would be unthinkable.

2. Human sacrifice - These are sick, sick phuks we're talking about.

3. Some sort of initiation - Like regular street gangs, killing to enter the gang or club, whatever.

4. Gun control - We are being incrementally led to that ending. That's why these types of things will continue, until enough people willingly hand them over. It will happen eventually, but not for many more years and many more events such as these.

5. Who knows? We're talking about people powerful enough to skirt the law. In that scenario, anything goes.


While you probably wrote this just to ring peoples bells you are one sick frick for even thinking most of what you wrote.
Posted by Grateful Reb
Member since Apr 2011
8070 posts
Posted on 6/15/22 at 8:01 pm to
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"I just had a strong sense that this didn't happen," she said. "Too many of those parents just rub me the wrong way."


^^^ describes 90% of conspiracy theorists.

“Hmmm, something just feels ‘off’ to me.”

quote:

Moving the goalposts of an argument in this way is a common tactic among conspiracy theorists, who are often driven by feelings of superiority and specialness and think they know something other people don't.


Ha! This describes the majority of the COVID conspiracy theorists on here.

“iTs aLL pArT oF tHe pLaN!1!1!1!”

This post was edited on 6/15/22 at 8:08 pm
Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
9071 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 12:42 pm to
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it’s so much more than that. Liberator is apparently of the mind that ships in 1840 were not capable of transporting goods or traveling 1500 miles. It really is incredible.


I am still amused at how triggering the subject of Fort Jefferson (and Star Forts) was and still obviously is for many. AND...here you are, STILL affected and referring to it (but on THIS thread?? )

Since it is YOU who wanted badly to beat this dead horse again:

"Transporting" goods 1500 miles is NOT the obvious problem. You conveniently ignored the what & how that's claimed to have been "transported":

A mind-boggling 16 MILLION bricks. Transported 1500 miles. ON vessels like THIS:



Indefatigable: "Meh. No Problem!!"

16 MILLION bricks is still documented to be THE most bricks of any structure on earth.

So...shipped 1500 miles from a supposed brick-maker all the way in Maine, eh? (ZERO docs) To a Dry Tortugas, way in the Gulf of Mexico? (ZERO docs) To Fort Jefferson we are told was built in the 1840s-1850s? (ZERO docs) Recorded shipping docs, details, engineering/witness accounts and logistics? (ZERO)


To actually believe this entire ridiculous "official" "historical" drivel on face value requires an incredibly high level of blind faith and trust in hearsay sources. Especially given there's ZERO documentation

Please address your LACK OF providing shipping accounts, documentation & details of the alleged "transport" of 16 million bricks to Fort Jefferson, FL in the "history" books, I'm all ears and eyes. (nevermind the sheer impossibility of the overall engineering feat & logistics for that time in History).







So. 16 million bricks. Maine to HERE. Other than, "muh-Wiki", got any docs for us?
Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
9071 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 12:56 pm to
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If I don’t have ready access to shipping records from the 1840’s...


Lol -- "ready access"?? THAT is what "History" is all about. It's called, "DOCUMENTATION". You have none. But don't feel so bad -- none of the serfs are allowed to know.

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...the only plausible explanation is that bricks were not transported by boat from Maine to Florida. It had to be done via unknown or unacknowledged advanced tech.


That's exactly the case.

During (unknown) era and timeline where and when the same advanced civilizations existed that built the Romanesque-Baroque-Islamic-"Tartarian" architecture.

Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
150170 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 1:04 pm to
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the acceptance of Sandy Hook is fake is massively accepted by the PB” is straight up horse shite.
Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
9071 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 1:07 pm to
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So was the East India trading company a deep state plot also?


Have you ever researched the East India trading company? Hudson's Bay Company? Or any of the Crown's "trading companies"?

You may be surprised at can be discovered.

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This big brain idea is quite fascinating in an "observing monkey's trying to solve puzzles" sort of way


And...THAT is exactly how the intellectually lazy, ignorant, the oblivious, and the cognitive dissonant rationalize those subjects which that cannot nor will not be broached.
Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
9071 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 1:26 pm to
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What is your opinion on why some people get so angry if you can't reproduce the original conspiracy documents and tell them what color underwear was worn at the time (with pics, I might add)?

I think it just shows the desperation for wanting to believe that people are inherently good and that bad people don't do bad things. A sort of defense mechanism.


You're pretty much spot on.

No one wants to admit they've been wrong. OR fooled. The whole, "DOCUMENT IT!!" is just theatrics. The True-Believers don't really want to see any documentation. It might actually change their mind about everything.

There is indeed a desperation especially to believe the people who comprise goobermint -- especially in our historical America -- has always a benevolent overlord. Is there some merit to it? Yes. (while it was more "Christian" and less Secular-Humanist). But... overall? The truth of the matter of the past AND present is far sinister than most are willing to concede.

It's already been stated but a very real Stockholm Syndrome of sorts has already taken place for the majority of the American people; Our early "education" has actually been more indoctrination, obedience training & programming than anything else. It's bore fruit in the willing blind faith and illusion of govt as benevolent & honest broker we see here in this thread (along with the irrational anger for daring to go off the Plantation and disbelieve tNarrative.)
Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
9071 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 1:34 pm to
The man thinks that the Mormon temple in SLC is the product of an ancient advanced civilization, DESPITE there being contemporary photographs of it under construction

"Comtemporary photographs"?? 'Under construction"? HA! Chyeah, right.

Photo ops were a thing and designed to deceive and fool -- even then. Scaffoling was a widely used prop and ploy.

Again Grasshopper -- you will find ZERO documentation to reinforce the incredibly, impossibly Temple in Salt Lake was..."built by Mormons". IT ALREADY EXISTED.

I don't have time to hold a seminar on Olde World history, re-purposing of prior cities & buildings, pre-"Colonial" civilizations in the "New" World, mud-floods, calamities, olde world tech, and the wholesale revision of "History".
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