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re: San Bernardino cop shoots unarmed man with arms up as he approaches them

Posted on 10/28/19 at 10:20 pm to
Posted by lake2280
Public intellectual
Member since Nov 2012
4474 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 10:20 pm to
Another idiot dies. If I was ever dumb enough to get myself in that situation I put my hands up and go to my knees. It’s not that hard.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10984 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 10:57 pm to
Hands up doesn’t mean anything if he is approaching fairly quickly in a threatening manner and ignoring police telling him to stop or get down. Putting down gun doesn’t mean threat over. Looked like he was moving towards & threatening cops. Even if cops should have switched to something less lethal the guy didn’t give them much time.

Perp was stupid and aggressively moving towards cops and outside of putting gun doing the exact opposite police were saying. It’s not like that exterminator with rat gun staying in a hotel for work who put gun down or didn’t have it when he came out of hotel room when ordered by police, laid down on hallway floor when ordered, and still got shot & killed.
Posted by munchman
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
10371 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:49 am to
quote:

That was totally justified in my opinion. He kept approaching the cops. That was suicide by cop if I have ever seen one.



This:
Suicide by cop regardless of race. Did not obey commands and kept coming towards cops after dropping a gun.

Nothing to say he would not have tried to overpower the officer.

Good with the shoot. Probably tasing better.


This post was edited on 10/29/19 at 3:56 am
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
31030 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 6:11 am to
Meanwhile 90% of all gun crimes the shooter is a liberal.
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 6:53 am to
Sounds like the baw was playing stupid arse games, not following orders and wanted suicide by cop. Bye.
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 6:55 am to
Police are going to be why this American experiment will end within 50 years. Police like this anyway. Shoot him in the damn leg or balls up and drop kick his arse.
Posted by eddieray
Lafayette
Member since Mar 2006
19509 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 7:20 am to
Kaepernick was right
This post was edited on 10/29/19 at 7:21 am
Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
The coast
Member since Jan 2018
13473 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 7:50 am to
That’s my issue with all the shootings, what happened to tasing, pepper spray, baton? One wack with a baton across the thigh the guy will stop and be crying on the ground.
Posted by ocelot4ark
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2009
12536 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 7:59 am to
I'm never surprised by the cop worship on this board. Some get it. Others, like their worship for Trump, just immediately look for a justification for their support.

frick this a-hole, murdering, piece of shite cop.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
51611 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 8:01 am to
That looks bad but why didn’t he stop moving when he was told to?
Posted by Niles
Seattle
Member since Oct 2019
205 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 8:02 am to
quote:

Cops who are cowards shouldn't be cops.


walk a mile in these cop's shoes before you call them "cowards" from your pleather Lazy-boy
This post was edited on 10/29/19 at 8:03 am
Posted by keks tadpole
Yellow Leaf Creek
Member since Feb 2017
8869 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 8:04 am to
Key to life #6: Never put yourself in a position where law enforcement has a reason to draw a sidearm on you.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21842 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 8:05 am to
quote:

Second, he was walking a little too briskly right at the retreating officer after repeated commands to stop.


To be fair walking toward an officer with your hands up is not exactly a reasonable threat.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 8:05 am to
quote:

I'm never surprised by the cop worship on this board. Some get it. Others, like their worship for Trump, just immediately look for a justification for their support.

frick this a-hole, murdering, piece of shite cop.



Yep. That was straight up murder.

Posted by tiganation337
Abbeville
Member since Jan 2019
403 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 8:06 am to
cops should have gone less lethal tazer, mace, baton etc he did throw the gun away so they weren't in mortal danger
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
61712 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 8:11 am to
quote:

That’s my issue with all the shootings, what happened to tasing, pepper spray, baton?
you think they should’ve had a taser out when the dude was holding a gun three seconds before.

You think they should holster the gun and grab the taser or baton and allow the guy to tackle them in the transfer

You think the cop should wait until the dude took yet another step towards him while defying commands to shoot. Maybe they coulda rolled around a bit then both end up dead?
Posted by ZappBrannigan
Member since Jun 2015
7692 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 8:18 am to
It's a bad look but there's arguments for both sides on this one.

I don't have the full context here. But he could have been surrendering for real and just not following/hearing/given instructions or he could have just been walking up to start a fight with the cops at close range.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
61712 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 8:20 am to
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cops should have gone less lethal tazer, mace, baton etc he did throw the gun away so they weren't in mortal danger
certainly they were. They don’t have time to go. “Whew, glad that is over” the guy was armed. He may still be armed you don’t lower your weapon until the guy complied with commands. Period.
Posted by Peepdip
Member since Aug 2016
4946 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 8:23 am to
You probably would pull the trigger you fricking pussy.
Posted by puse01
Member since Sep 2011
3743 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 8:24 am to
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