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re: SAIP: Study: Vaccines don't lower viral load in Delta breakthrough cases. Goalposts moved
Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:46 am to Cosmo
Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:46 am to Cosmo
Anti vaxxers on here are just so desperate to try to look smart…every day there’s a new “Look, look!!! I told you so!!!”
You’re morons
You’re morons
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Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:47 am to lsupride87
But the mechanism is different, correct? So for someone who doesn't want the spike proteins, this is more traditional and old school, correct?
Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:47 am to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
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Everyone is going to get COVID, probably more than once, in their lifetime.
Should have been widely known and accepted from the outset. Measures taken to manage the hospital load were needed but have long passed.
Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:47 am to loogaroo
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Tell me how it is not spread just as much if the viral load is the same.
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The researchers stressed that vaccination still offers good protection against catching the disease in the first place
Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:49 am to loogaroo
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Tell me how it is not spread just as much if the viral load is the same.
Vaccinated people with the same viral load shed it less than unvaccinated?
Really? Are you just ignoring how this has been explained multiple times? If the virus breaks through the vaccine, that breakthrough case will spread the virus as much as any other COVID positive case. BUT, breakthrough infections are very rare. Therefore, the vaccine greatly reduces the transmission of the virus. This is not complicated at all.
Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:50 am to loogaroo
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Tell me how it is not spread just as much if the viral load is the same.
Vaccinated people with the same viral load shed it less than unvaccinated?
Far less vaccinated people contract the virus than unvaccinated people. Therefore, vaccinated individuals are spreading the virus less than unvaccinated people.
Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:51 am to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
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As I said in another thread. In a sane world, this information would lead us to take the vaccine passport idea behind the woodshed and put it out of its misery.
The passports are a horrible idea for many reasons, but not for this information. You're implying that breakthrough infections are common.
Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:51 am to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
quote:To start, I am against mandates
As I said in another thread. In a sane world, this information would lead us to take the vaccine passport idea behind the woodshed and put it out of its misery.
However, this in no way woodsheds the purpose of the idea
Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:52 am to LNCHBOX
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BUT, breakthrough infections are very rare.
When a vaccinated person catches the Delta variant it isn't a breakthrough?
Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:53 am to LNCHBOX
Those not fully vaccinated account for...
89% of cases from 8/5 to 8/11
80% of deaths from 8/5 to 8/11
91% of COVID patients
Vaccine seems to be working like it should to me.
89% of cases from 8/5 to 8/11
80% of deaths from 8/5 to 8/11
91% of COVID patients
Vaccine seems to be working like it should to me.
Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:54 am to tiger91
quote:The novvavax vaccine is a spike protein, it is not a viral vector virus
But the mechanism is different, correct? So for someone who doesn't want the spike proteins, this is more traditional and old school, correct?
Which is why I am so surprised the Politcal board as fallen in love with it
JJ-viral vector
Pfizer moderna- send messaging to create spike protein
Novvax-directly injects spike protein
This post was edited on 8/19/21 at 8:54 am
Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:54 am to Tigerfan1274
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Far less vaccinated people contract the virus than unvaccinated people
We sure about that?
Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:54 am to lsupride87
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Think of the vaccine like a condom
Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:54 am to loogaroo
quote:Dude, its in your study
We sure about that?
So now you are picking what parts of the study is true and what part isnt?
Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:55 am to tiger91
quote:he's a doctor, a lawyer, a politician, a day trader, an engineer...
Cosmo, if you're a doctor, can you please share (if you have any) thoughts on the Novavax vaccine expected to be approved for emergency use?? Thanks.
This post was edited on 8/19/21 at 8:59 am
Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:55 am to loogaroo
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When a vaccinated person catches the Delta variant it isn't a breakthrough?
Who said it wasn't?
Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:55 am to loogaroo
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We sure about that?
why are you choosing to believe one part of your study, but not others?
Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:55 am to loogaroo
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We sure about that?
Unless your head is in the sand, yes.
Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:56 am to Cosmo
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But if you are vaxxed you are less likely to be symptomatic or get infected at all
Ehhhh
Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:56 am to Cajunhawk81
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this is a shitty vaccine.
It's at least as good, and probably way better, as the flu shot that 60% of the country clamors over themselves to get every single year.
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