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re: Russia Pounds ISIS With Biggest Bomber Raid in Decades
Posted on 11/18/15 at 7:56 am to Mr. Hangover
Posted on 11/18/15 at 7:56 am to Mr. Hangover
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For those of you who follow this situation and politics in general, what effect could Russia's bombings have on US involvement in this conflict??
Besides showing how weak our current administration is?
Russia is protecting Syria and Russia's warm water port in the area. Also, Russia's oil and future pipelines come into play here.
Ultimately, Russia involved in ME is bad for the US as it weakens our position.
Posted on 11/18/15 at 7:59 am to Street Hawk
ISIS played right into Putin's hand. He gets to flex his muscles without violating any treaties and shite.
Posted on 11/18/15 at 8:15 am to Darth_Vader
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Russia has rebuilt their military while we and the rest of the West are busy cutting ours to the bone.
We spend more on our military than the next 9 largest militaries in the world combined
Posted on 11/18/15 at 8:17 am to H.M. Murdock
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They do not have the logistic capabilities to wage long campaigns far from home
Logistics is how wars are won.
Posted on 11/18/15 at 8:17 am to deltaland
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We spend more on our military than the next 9 largest militaries in the world combined
Dollars spent is a piss poor way to judge how well we are maintaining our military.
Posted on 11/18/15 at 8:19 am to Darth_Vader
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Dollars spent is a piss poor way to judge how well we are maintaining our military.
other than the F-35 disaster
our stuff is very well maintained
Best training in the world hands down.
Posted on 11/18/15 at 8:21 am to Street Hawk
Never thought I'd be cheering for the Ruskies.
Posted on 11/18/15 at 8:30 am to StraightCashHomey21
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other than the F-35 disaster
our stuff is very well maintained
Best training in the world hands down.
I agree 100%. The only thing I'm trying to say is it's becoming very apparent that Russia is reemerging as a major wold power. The fact they've sustained a bombing campaign over Syria for some time now and on top of that just launched the biggest bombing raid the world has seen in decades is proof of that.
The threat they pose is not really to the mainland U.S., although their ICBM's are indeed a big threat. Instead the main threat they pose is to Central & Western Europe. Since the end of the Cold War the European NATO powers have gutted their armed forces while we have all but withdrawn the bulk of our military forces there. Europe had better take note and get off their arse and start rebuilding what they once had. Russia is not back to full strength yet, but they've far closer to it than Europe. and what's worse is they're busy building back to that point while Europe is not.
Posted on 11/18/15 at 8:34 am to Teddy Ruxpin
Told my wife last night, ISIS blowing up that plane with Russian people was a lot like Hitler's biggest mistake..... trying to fight a war on 2 fronts. It was dumb and strategically, a horrible mistake.
But, if your end game to bring upon a caliphate or end times, them maybe it's not.ha
But, if your end game to bring upon a caliphate or end times, them maybe it's not.ha
Posted on 11/18/15 at 8:39 am to Darth_Vader
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I said they'd rebuilt their military and we should take notice. You are inferring things that I never said.
I agree with what you said about us needing to take notice. But, as someone who has no interest in "piling on you" I can tell you it did come across like something you'd read out of a doomsday prepper pamphlet - like we should be gearing up for major Russian attacks or something.
Posted on 11/18/15 at 8:40 am to Oyster
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ISIS wants the world to come to Syria and kick their asses in order to bring on their visions of the Muslim end time.
We'll be happy to give them the end of Muslim times.
Posted on 11/18/15 at 8:46 am to armytiger16
Check out the new Russian main battle tank, badass and about half the price of an Abrams...
Posted on 11/18/15 at 8:49 am to ZULU
the US created ISIS. What's happening over there is a well executed plan which is working...
Posted on 11/18/15 at 8:50 am to AubieALUMdvm
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I agree with what you said about us needing to take notice. But, as someone who has no interest in "piling on you" I can tell you it did come across like something you'd read out of a doomsday prepper pamphlet - like we should be gearing up for major Russian attacks or something.
Saying it's time we take notice of Russia's rearmament is not the same as saying an attack from Russia is imminent. In fact in this very thread I've stated chances of an attack on the U.S. by Russia is "beyond remote". How does that come across as being some doomsday prepper crap?
Posted on 11/18/15 at 8:52 am to mizzoukills
Very original thoughts. Do you head up a think tank or something?
Posted on 11/18/15 at 8:54 am to mizzoukills
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the US created ISIS.
We did? I can see you saying we are at least somewhat responsible for their rise due to Obama withdrawing our forces and thus creating the power vacuum that ISIS has used to rise to power. Is that what you're saying?
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What's happening over there is a well executed plan which is working...
Can you explain this plan?
Posted on 11/18/15 at 8:58 am to ZULU
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Check out the new Russian main battle tank, badass and about half the price
They build quality weapons and are cost effective. We spend trillions researching how to be cost effective
Posted on 11/18/15 at 9:04 am to H.M. Murdock
I am not positive about it, but this might also give Putin a chance to bomb the shite out of fighters from Chechnya. A lot of them are Islamic militants now fighting for ISIS/AQ, and a lot of them will be going back to fight after this whole thing is over. Might as well blow them the frick up while everyone is supporting you
Posted on 11/18/15 at 9:06 am to FelicianaTigerfan
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Check out the new Russian main battle tank, badass and about half the price
They build quality weapons and are cost effective. We spend trillions researching how to be cost effective
I've been reading up on this new T-14 Armata of theirs. It looks like they're fielding a tank that can go toe to toe with any Western tank (including the Abrams).
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The main armament of the T-14 is the 2A82-1M 125 mm (4.92 in) smoothbore cannon,[5][15] a new replacement for the 2A46 of previous Russian and Soviet tanks. Noteworthy features include an absence of a fume extractor (due to the unmanned turret), a firing rate of 10–12 rounds per minute, and a maximum effective-penetration range of 8 km. The detection range of the tank's optical sensors is more than 5[9] km for tank-sized targets at day (This is the official government data), and not less than 3.5 km at night through the thermal imaging channel. The gunner sight's optical channel is equipped with 4x and 12x optical zoom.[2] The laser rangefinder has a theoretical maximum range of 7.5 km.[9] These systems are duplicated, in addition there is a third system (weaker). Can fire on the move. The crew uses a high-definition camera to monitor 360 degrees.[16]
The Vacuum-1 sabot round which is currently being developed for the 2A82-1M cannon has a penetrator which is 900 mm long,[2] and is capable of penetrating 1,000 mm of RHA equivalent at a distance of 2,000 meters.[17][18] The new controlled-detonation Telnik HE-Frag shell is also available. The cannon also has ability to fire guided missiles,[19] a feature first implemented on Soviet tanks, with a new 3UBK21 Sprinter ATGM developed specifically for it. These missiles can be used as a means of air defense systems.[9]
And it looks like they're building 2,300 of them.
LINK
(And yes, one did break down at the Victory Day parade earlier this year.)
Posted on 11/18/15 at 9:13 am to Crow Pie
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o they all of a sudden have such a target rich environment to bomb in the days post Paris?
nah, they're just bombing dirt and empty buildings. looks real tough to all the chicken hawks on here though.
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