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re: Robber with AK-47 might not live to regret his decisions/Dallas

Posted on 7/13/16 at 10:48 am to
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
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Posted on 7/13/16 at 10:48 am to
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slackster
We get it.
Posted by Tino
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Posted on 7/13/16 at 10:51 am to
Just hold on. He still has 8 hours of arguing a side point of the original op in him
Posted by slackster
Houston
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Posted on 7/13/16 at 10:53 am to
Sure, that's fine by me. The intent of the law is understandable, but there are quite a few documented cases where POS humans have literally gotten away with the murder of other POS humans.

They're trying to protect guys like the one in the OP, but they inadvertently allow over-the-top vigilante justice.
Posted by Steadyhands
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Member since May 2016
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Posted on 7/13/16 at 10:53 am to
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quote:Instead of beating around the bush, what point are you trying to make?

My point is that I don't trust my "peers" to apply common sense when applying a poorly written law. Juries are typically filled with idiots.


I've never been on a jury, but with the common sense I was referring to, this would never be presented to a jury.
Posted by Titus Pullo
MTDGA
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 7/13/16 at 10:54 am to
He *might* get indicted if are even pressed, but no jury will convict him. They would probably applaud him.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85498 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 10:54 am to
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We get it.


Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/13/16 at 10:57 am to
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slackster


More contrarianism from you. Shocker.
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 11:02 am to
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More contrarianism from you. Shocker.

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LNCHBOX
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/13/16 at 11:04 am to
I'm usually arguing on the side of the majority. Especially in this instance, but enjoy your upvotes I guess.
Posted by monkeybutt
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 7/13/16 at 11:06 am to
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I'm usually arguing on the side of the majority


If this is true, then why would you expect this
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enjoy your upvotes
?
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
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Posted on 7/13/16 at 11:06 am to
Because I have a reputation.
Posted by monkeybutt
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 7/13/16 at 11:07 am to

How would you have gotten that reputation though?
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40262 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 11:23 am to
How broke do you have to be to rob a Waffle House?
Posted by ccard257
Fort Worth, TX
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/13/16 at 11:28 am to
Friendly reminder that in Texas you can tell the dispatcher that you are going to go kill the guys robing your neighbor, and then go outside and shoot them in the back, and the grand jury will no-bill your arse and give you a medal. And as a bonus, someone who legally uses justified deadly force is immune from civil liability in texas.

Joe Horn for Neighbor of the Year

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"I understand the concerns of some in the community regarding Mr. Horn's conduct," Harris County District Attorney Kenneth Magidson told reporters at the courthouse. "The use of deadly force is carefully limited in Texas law to certain circumstances. ... In this case, however, the grand jury concluded that Mr. Horn use of deadly force did not rise to a criminal offense."

'I'm Gonna Shoot!' Horn called 911 in November to report a burglary in broad daylight at the house next door.

"I've got a shotgun; you want me to stop him?" Horn asked the dispatcher.

"Nope. Don't do that," the dispatcher replied. "Ain't no property worth shooting somebody over, OK?"

Horn was clearly upset by the dispatcher's response.

"I'm not gonna let them get away with it," he said. "I can't take a chance getting killed over this, OK."

Despite the dispatcher's protects, Horn said, "I'm gonna shoot! I'm gonna shoot!"

The 911 dispatcher warned Horn to stay inside at least a dozen separate times, telling him, "An officer is coming out there. I don't want you to go outside that house."

Then Horn sounding angrier by the moment cited the new Texas law.

"OK, but I have a right to protect myself too, sir," he said. "And you understand that. And the laws have been changed in this country since September the first, and you know it and I know it."

Moments later, Horn saw two burglars leave his neighbor's house, one of them carrying a bag filled with cash and jewelry.

"I'm gonna kill him," Horn said. "Stay in the house," the dispatcher said. "They're getting away," Horn replied. "That's all right," the dispatcher said. "Property's not worth killing someone over. OK?" "---damn it," said Horn, who then defied the dispatcher.

"Well, here it goes, buddy, you hear the shotgun clicking, and I'm going," he said.

"Don't go outside," the dispatcher warned.

Self-Defense? Horn says he came out his front door, down his porch and confronted the two burglars. The next sounds heard on the 911 tape are Horn ordering the two men to stop & and then shooting them both.

"Move you're dead," he said, and fired his shotgun three times.

"Both suspects were shot in the back," Pasadena Police Captain A.H. "Bud" Corbett said. "Not at the same angle, but both suspects were hit in the back."

Horn fatally shot the burglars, two illegal immigrants from Colombia named Diego Ortiz and Miguel de Jesus.

Posted by Box Geauxrilla
Member since Jun 2013
19123 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 11:35 am to
I wish Joe Horn was my neighbor
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85498 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 11:56 am to
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More contrarianism from you. Shocker.




I'm not specifically looking for opportunities to ruffle feathers, it's just been a particularly fertile time the past two weeks. Hell, if anything, I'm at least being consistent. Justifiable use of deadly force, be it by the police or a civilian, doesn't always mean it is the right moral decision. Alton Sterling is fine by me. The case in the OP is fine by me. They shouldn't be lumped together with someone like Joe Horn.
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