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re: Rivian R1T’s first real-world towing test shows 62% range loss
Posted on 12/1/21 at 9:08 am to BayouBlitz
Posted on 12/1/21 at 9:08 am to BayouBlitz
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Posted on 12/1/21 at 9:14 am to Oilfieldbiology
Do you think that a charger for an EV doesn't an exist?
Posted on 12/1/21 at 9:16 am to BayouBlitz
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Idiot.
always solidifies an argument when someone drops insults at the end...
Posted on 12/1/21 at 10:17 am to bayoudude
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How many people let their damn fuel light come on before they look for gas? You honestly think the majority of drivers will be mindful of charge every night? Good luck trying to change the driving habits of women overnight. Lol this whole EV bullshite is chasing unicorn farts
The data from EV owner behavior suggests they are more likely to plug in when they do not need to rather than run it down without plugging in.
Posted on 12/1/21 at 10:28 am to bayoudude
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How many people let their damn fuel light come on before they look for gas? You honestly think the majority of drivers will be mindful of charge every night? Good luck trying to change the driving habits of women overnight. Lol this whole EV bullshite is chasing unicorn farts
Most people run their phones down all the time. But most people also make a point of making sure their phones are charged if they have a flight the next morning.
Posted on 12/1/21 at 10:29 am to bayoudude
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You honestly think the majority of drivers will be mindful of charge every night?
Of all the criticisms of EVs, this may be the most ridiculous.
Posted on 12/1/21 at 10:33 am to LNCHBOX
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Of all the criticisms of EVs, this may be the most ridiculous.
WE have the same problems with these threads. Anti EV folks use outdated info or ridiculous examples to prove their points. Of all the sites I have discussed EV on TD has the most even keeled EV supporters. They understand it isn't for everyone. If you have a question ask away but don't use memes as your research
Posted on 12/1/21 at 10:55 am to bayoudude
quote:That's because it's a pain to stop for gas. If they had a gas station at home this wouldn't be an issue.
How many people let their damn fuel light come on before they look for gas?
quote:Data says they are. It's so easy and cheap, why wouldn't you do it? Especially if a fricking storm is coming, damn right they'd all be charged up.
You honestly think the majority of drivers will be mindful of charge every night?
quote:Phone apps remind you to charge, and I'm sure you have some observations about women and phones. Speaking of women, with no need to stop at a gas station every week an EV eliminates that potential danger to women. That's probably why they rarely gas up, come to think of it.
Good luck trying to change the driving habits of women overnight.
quote:Open your eyes and your mind.
Lol this whole EV bullshite is chasing unicorn farts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 11:00 am to Korkstand
Alright let’s assume the general public is responsible enough to keep their adult power wheels plugged in. How many charge discharge cycles can these batteries take? Also quick charging will lessen battery life. Will EV owners be facing replacement of batteries every 4-5 yrs possibly costing upwards of $10,000?
This post was edited on 12/1/21 at 11:01 am
Posted on 12/1/21 at 11:01 am to Korkstand
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Lol this whole EV bullshite is chasing unicorn farts
Open your eyes and your mind.
It is tough for some to watch society pass you by. Kork, what EV do you have?
Posted on 12/1/21 at 11:11 am to bayoudude
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How many charge discharge cycles can these batteries take?
A lot. Home energy storage systems power cycle every day and last about 10 years. I actually have a 15 year warranty on my Power Walls.
Posted on 12/1/21 at 11:12 am to DawgCountry
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always solidifies an argument when someone drops insults at the end...
I'm not trying to argue with ignorance. It's a no-win situation.
Posted on 12/1/21 at 11:12 am to SPEEDY
quote:It depends. Sometimes you get "free" charge miles with the purchase of the car. I think Rivian has a membership program, one benefit of which is free charging.
Serious question…How pays for the electricity being consumed at these charging stations?
In addition to their superchargers, Tesla has a vast network of "destination chargers" installed at hotels, restaurants, and the like. Tesla installs them for free and they require the establishment to provide free charging to guests. They aren't superchargers, but they charge fast enough to fill it up overnight. It only costs the hotel a couple bucks of electricity, which they are more than happy to pay if it keeps the rooms occupied. It's cheap advertising in the cockpit of every Tesla vehicle.
If you go to a "3rd party" charger, you'll end up paying either by the kwh or by the minute, but I think that usually works out to being as expensive as gas.
Posted on 12/1/21 at 11:17 am to jmarto1
quote:None yet. I'm letting the EV truck market fill out while I drive my old Sierra until the wheels fall off. Maybe by then the cybertruck will have grown on me.
Kork, what EV do you have?
Posted on 12/1/21 at 11:20 am to Korkstand
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Maybe by then the cybertruck will have grown on me
Patiently waiting to buy mine. I have a good bit of experience borrowing my friend's S and X
Posted on 12/1/21 at 11:30 am to bayoudude
quote:These "adult power wheels" will blow the doors off whatever it is you drive. Bad look throwing out childish insults while trying to call the target a child.
Alright let’s assume the general public is responsible enough to keep their adult power wheels plugged in
quote:Enough.
How many charge discharge cycles can these batteries take?
quote:In most cases the pack will probably outlast the rest of the car.
Will EV owners be facing replacement of batteries every 4-5 yrs possibly costing upwards of $10,000?
Posted on 12/1/21 at 11:37 am to Korkstand
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Will EV owners be facing replacement of batteries every 4-5 yrs possibly costing upwards of $10,000?
Poor charging habits and and some other variables will have the battery needing replacement at 10 years. Data is limited but that seems to be where they are at. 4-5 years is some other type of problem
Posted on 12/1/21 at 11:42 am to jmarto1
Publicly available data is limited. There’s a shite load of data it’s just kept closely guarded.
Posted on 12/1/21 at 12:27 pm to billjamin
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Publicly available data is limited. There’s a shite load of data it’s just kept closely guarded.
Teslas have been around for around 10 years. They cannot control the data that much, but we are hitting that poimt where we see more problems
Posted on 12/1/21 at 12:45 pm to jmarto1
You’d be surprised to know how well they do control it. Access to the raw data requires Elon’s personal sign off. Without the raw signals, you’re just guessing. These systems are far more complicated than plug in = charge and drive = discharge. There’s a lot going on and without the raw data anything else is anecdotal. Then when you get the raw data it’s an absolute monster to consume because some of these signals report in fractional second intervals and there’s over a thousand total signals. The data they have is impressive and I can’t speak to specifics but I would say to look at the PW2 warranties if your curious about degradation. The home ESS is essentially a HALT test for EV cells.
This post was edited on 12/1/21 at 12:49 pm
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