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Replacing residential windows discussion

Posted on 2/22/19 at 12:01 pm
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
66950 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 12:01 pm
Looking at replacing a few substandard windows around the house.
Looked at
Champion. Appears good quality, yet expensive.
Windows world. Cheaper, maybe less quality.

What experience does the OT have on this subject?
Suggestions?
Do they really save on the power bill compared to older double pane windows?
Probably need someone to install, I'd probably screw up trying to install ones from the big box stores.
TIA
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
49057 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 12:02 pm to
quote:

Probably need someone to install, I'd probably screw up trying to install ones from the big box stores.


I would never attempt that.

Relieffff Windooowwws.

Go with them Matt Moscona said so.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
178086 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 12:05 pm to
Just remember, telling us your location doesn't help us help you at all!
Posted by mctiger1985
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
3695 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 12:07 pm to
quote:

Do they really save on the power bill compared to older double pane windows? 


Perhaps if you have windows that the sun actually hits, but I haven't noticed any savings.
Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
22281 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 12:07 pm to
I've seen several different "brands" around my neighborhood. Most look very similar to each other, except Window World. They stand out, and not in a good way.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34216 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 12:22 pm to
Just my opinion, but double pane windows will not save much at all in electric bills.

I highly reccomend putting in storm windows or some refer to them as storm sash. They will be half of the price of new windows and accomplish more in terms of energy efficiency and noise reduction.

They will fit around your old single pane window and stick out about an inch. The storm windows are single pane windows with screens and all lower and raise and tilt for cleaning. So you have single pane glass, 1" air space, then your single pane window.

Most window companies will say they wont do much. But I had it done twice in two different homes and difference was remarkable. I spent about $250 per storm window.
Posted by BARNEYSTINSON
Member since Oct 2011
797 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 12:34 pm to
We used LAS in 2012 and they did a good job. Had an issue with 1 and was taken care of immediately.
Posted by lsu tigerdog
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
263 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 12:41 pm to
i went with relief windows vs window world 2yrs ago.
relief window was actually cheaper
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
66950 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 12:53 pm to
In Alabama
Posted by Ron Popeil
Mississippi coast
Member since Nov 2018
871 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 12:55 pm to
I used window world for several windows on my house and they look almost exactly like the Pella windows that I installed myself. I have been very happy with both. My electric bill definitely went down as I replaced some really bad 1950’s aluminum windows.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34216 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 1:14 pm to
Here's a link to storm windows

LINK

I had a company in Baton Rouge come out and do them, then when moved to TX, called the Baton Rouge company and they recommended someone in Houston and had it done. High quality storm window and install was $232 per window. Made a tremendous difference.
Posted by FishinTygah84
LA
Member since Dec 2013
2036 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 2:08 pm to
just had the glass in my windows replaced with LoE' 366 glass. Has a minor tint on the outside and blocks a TON of sun. My living room used to be like 78 when the stat was set on 72. Just ran and ran trying to cool the living room. Got the new windows and it cut that out immediately. crazy the difference
Posted by AUsteriskPride
Albuquerque, NM
Member since Feb 2011
18385 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 2:13 pm to
If you haven't already done so, concentrate on adding insulation first. Much cheaper and can make a massive difference if you're under insulated.
Posted by Pendulum
Member since Jan 2009
8010 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 2:18 pm to
If you are getting windows installed, be sure the company is not subbing work out, or no matter how good the "lifetime warranty" is, you will be screwed if any issue arises because somewhere in the contract probably says something about "proper workmanship" and the company that built the window didnt install it, so good luck. Same thing goes for a company selling products they didnt manufacture, they are at the mercy of their supplier for any issues, delays, etc.

Window world has gotten as big nationally as they are because they are regional franchises that are taking on almost zero liability. They are purchasing the window from a regional manufacturer and subbing work out. They are basically a middle man that closes the sale. Not saying it can't work out, it can, there are good subs, it's just percentages.

As far as selection: installation, warranty, and glass type are 90% of what matters in our climate. Stay away from anything clad down here in the SE.
This post was edited on 2/22/19 at 2:21 pm
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
74921 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 2:18 pm to
I am also in the market for this in ATL. I also think the single pane windows are the ticket. The ones I'm replacing are double paned and the seals have rotted so they are all fogged up. I don't want to do this again in 5 or 10 years, so single pane. The problem with my energy bill isn't my windows, it is my 20 year old hvac system (also upgrading this year).

Am I right or wrong?
Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
11796 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 2:19 pm to
We used Window world recently and were satisfied.
Posted by Pendulum
Member since Jan 2009
8010 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 2:23 pm to
The difference between double pane windows from circa 2000-2005 and windows from today, is extremely substantial. The spacer and sealing technology has come a loooong way. Most of the big ig fabricators will give out 25 yr warranties now against seal failure.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34216 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 2:26 pm to
quote:

The problem with my energy bill isn't my windows, it is my 20 year old hvac system (also upgrading this year).


Yes you probably have an 8 SEER, get a 2 stage system Trane a 16 SEER. You'll be saving money.

We did that as well as our unit was 21 years old and also put in new duct work and electronic dampers. All that made a huge difference.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
74921 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 2:27 pm to
But in ATL it doesn't really get all that cold, and it doesn't get hot like Florida or LA, hot but not retard hot. So I'm not too worried about the $4/m potential energy savings when I have a wife and kid who will leave doors open and lights on and all that shite.... so If my window job can be $3000 instead of $9000, I'll go with single pane and eat the $4/m energy savings.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
74921 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 2:29 pm to
My next door neighor to the right sells hvac, Carrier.
My next door neighbor to the left installs hvac.

My plan is to buy at cost from one neighbor, then get install done at "neighbor price" from the other neighbor.

So I will probably end up with Carrier.
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