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re: Rep. Melissa Hortman killed, Sen. John Hoffman shot in 'targeted' shootings
Posted on 6/15/25 at 5:58 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 6/15/25 at 5:58 pm to SlowFlowPro
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To a bipartisan commission. And Walz just re-appointed him. He was originally appointed by Walz's predecessor. This gives no indication or evidence of his personal political belief.
He was chosen by the candidate for vice president of which party?
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So you're arguing his own words, that you can watch, listen, and absorb, is a "Hail Mary" that "falls incomplete" and yet an appointment to a bipartisan board somehow is relevant and "complete"?
I am arguing that the pattern of leftist violence and their inability to demonstrate any form of impartiality is well established. What did these two democrats who were targeted do to warrant being taken out by this attacker? Surely they voted for some bill that kept elderly illegals from being removed receiving benefits, right?
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If you look at the names on his list, they're DEMs and abortion providers and proponents. If I had to wager, his motivation was motivated by anti-Leftist and specifically anti-abortion ideology.
The votes that these two victims had most recently participated in had nothing to do with abortions.
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 6:00 pm to whatiknowsofar
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See i think the murder of democrats is a little more damning than being appointed to a bipartisan committee.
Nah the left can’t stand on murder being bad. You actively promote the killing of the unborn and simultaneously demand for justice reform because it is unfair to certain groups. All the while these reforms have led to known murders being let out on pr bonds and killing more people.
Posted on 6/15/25 at 6:03 pm to jnethe1
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He was chosen by the candidate for vice president of which party?
Irrelevant datapoint to his personal politics
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I am arguing that the pattern of leftist violence and their inability to demonstrate any form of impartiality is well established.
And this commentary would not apply to him if he was NOT a leftist, correct?
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What did these two democrats who were targeted do to warrant being taken out by this attacker?
Apparently, be Democrat.
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Surely they voted for some bill that kept elderly illegals from being removed receiving benefits, right?
One voted with the DEMs.
If your theory relies on data proven to be 50% false, it's a bad theory.
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The votes that these two victims had most recently participated in had nothing to do with abortions.
And as shown above, the vote you reference isn't good for your argument.
Posted on 6/15/25 at 6:14 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:What did you learn about his beliefs from this page?
Here's a wayback link to his church's website in 2018
Posted on 6/15/25 at 6:18 pm to Wolfhound45
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What did you learn about his beliefs from this page?
That was in part to confirm the reporting from Wired
The sermon and other works (and items posted) give a better picture of his beliefs.
This does, too
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The “manifesto” of alleged Minnesota political assassin Vance Boelter lists a chilling who’s who of Minnesota lawmakers and abortion providers he may have had in his crosshairs.
Everyone from Sen. Amy Klobuchar to Rep. Ilhan Omar and Gov. Tim Walz were named in the document, which was discovered piecemeal in several locations, the Minnesota Star Tribune reported.
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Sources told the Star Tribune that Klobuchar was listed, as well as members of the Minnesota Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party and an unknown number of abortion providers in the state. Smith, Morrison and Omar all confirmed they were among the names in the document.
Posted on 6/15/25 at 6:25 pm to jnethe1
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Nah the left can’t stand on murder being bad
Lol you're one of those.
Posted on 6/15/25 at 6:25 pm to whatiknowsofar
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The fact that this guy was a Tim Walz appointee is as damning as it gets.
To not understand how meaningless it is that this dude was appointed to a volunteer development committee really shows how limited your world view is.
Posted on 6/15/25 at 6:26 pm to Foy
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To not understand how meaningless it is that this dude was appointed to a volunteer development committee really shows how limited your world view is.
The echo chamber and partisan brain rot are real.
This story has exposed a lot of people suffering from the combination of that paradigm.
Posted on 6/15/25 at 6:27 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:birth children of our beloved Poli board.
The echo chamber and partisan brain rot are real.
Posted on 6/15/25 at 6:32 pm to Foy
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not understand how meaningless it is that this dude was appointed to a volunteer development committee really shows how limited your world view is.
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 6:32 pm to HenryParsons
Usual suspects??
Posted on 6/15/25 at 6:53 pm to SlowFlowPro
So he's a nut job. We need more mental health care facilities and less violence championed by the left
Posted on 6/15/25 at 6:54 pm to HailToTheChiz
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So he's a nut job. We need more mental health care facilities and less violence championed by the left
Whoops! Trump just sent that money to Israel.
Posted on 6/15/25 at 7:22 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:So, Wired found a defunct webpage with no linked information on it.
That was in part to confirm the reporting from Wired
Interesting.
Posted on 6/15/25 at 7:41 pm to SlowFlowPro
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named in the document, which was discovered piecemeal in several locations
quote:I would like to see what is making them piece together 2 different lists found at different locations together as one hit list. Better safe than sorry about warning anyone on a list found, but unless they both have something written across the top like the guy on Billy Madison or the killer is known to be working with a 2nd person one or the other could just be a regular list.
list of targets purported to be written by Boelter said it included the names of individuals and businesses, including Planned Parenthood locations. Hortman’s name was down the list, not at the top.
The list was not alphabetized, and some names had addresses, while others did not. It was two pages, containing about 50 to 70 names. No separate manifesto was seen.
Omar and Walz are oddest choices considering he was appointed by one to a position (as well as the prior Dem governor), and even though one of the organizations he worked seemed to focus on central Africa the other seemed to focus on any african immigrants in Minnesota.
Something would have had to have happened to him and a switch flipped as even if he has been pro-life his entire life, which I am not sure has been reported one way or the other, he didn’t have any issue working with or around what would likely have been many pro-abortion Dems for at least a decade or more in govt or non-profit work.
Also, besides the possibility one list wasn’t a true hit list there was no way he was going thru one page much less two if pages truly connected. I was surprised after just one shooting that another city’s cops went to check on the 2nd house (maybe the survivors at 1st shooting heard him say something), but after the 2nd shooting even if cops didn’t show up in time to force him to leave his car behind after getting into a shoot out with cops I think a pattern still would have been set for cops to start following up to other lawmakers even if it had to be both parties at that early point. So even if all had gone to plan with no survivors maybe 3 or 4 homes hit that night at most as then besides the rest getting cop presence and additional security they aren’t just going to gather in one place the next morning for any kind of easy mass shooting. Again something more recently could have triggered a big psychotic break making him believe it was all possible, but I still don’t think everyone on list was truly a target.
Posted on 6/15/25 at 7:50 pm to TT9
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birth children of our beloved Poli board.
Um, you’re included in that brain rot, dumbass.
You think you’re special? fricking moron.
Posted on 6/15/25 at 7:58 pm to dallastigers
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Omar and Walz are oddest choices considering he was appointed by one to a position (as well as the prior Dem governor),
Shows this isn't worthwhile as evidence of his personal political beliefs
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even though one of the organizations he worked seemed to focus on central Africa the other seemed to focus on any african immigrants in Minnesota.
He was an Evangelical Christian who gave sermons in Africa and tried to do business there. None of this denotes being a Leftist.
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Something would have had to have happened to him and a switch flipped as even if he has been pro-life his entire life, which I am not sure has been reported one way or the other,
He's been an Evangelical Christian for more than 10 years. He's had his own church he formed for more than 10 years.
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he didn’t have any issue working with or around what would likely have been many pro-abortion Dems for at least a decade or more in govt or non-profit work.
I mean it's clear he had some sort of devolution to end up crazy enough to become a murderer. He doesn't seem psycho at all from his sermon in Congo from 2023. Evangelical? yes. Anti-abortion? Yes. Anti-trans? yes. Crazy? naw.
Like the ISIS terrorist in New Orleans. He was a normal #grind type just a few months prior to the terrorism.
This is a major reason why I put in so much time fighting the polarization we see on here so much these days. This saga has been a master class of intellectual dishonesty, disorganization, and ignorance displaying the partisan brain rot to a level rarely seen so clearly.
Posted on 6/15/25 at 8:01 pm to DemonKA3268
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Um, you’re included in that brain rot, dumbass.
You think you’re special? fricking moron.
I don't. Certainly a ton of Libs online still Hilarry posting etc... But. Conservatives got targeted hard with Elon buying Twitter and you guys have willingly jacked yourself into the Matrix probably moreso than anyone could have ever imagined.
Posted on 6/15/25 at 8:03 pm to Foy
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and you guys have willingly jacked yourself into the Matrix probably moreso than anyone could have ever imagined.
Dude, I’m not a pussy leftist. Never have been, never will be.
Posted on 6/15/25 at 8:04 pm to DemonKA3268
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Dude, I’m not a pussy leftist. Never have been, never will be.
I was talking about conservatives.
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