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re: Religious exemption
Posted on 10/28/21 at 1:11 pm to WhodatLSU95
Posted on 10/28/21 at 1:11 pm to WhodatLSU95
Jessie Duplantis is god.
Just ask him to eliminate the thing you are seeking exemption from.
...and ask him who is his barber? Preacher cuts rock.
Just ask him to eliminate the thing you are seeking exemption from.
...and ask him who is his barber? Preacher cuts rock.
Posted on 10/28/21 at 1:52 pm to WhodatLSU95
Why do you need a pastor to sign it? You don’t have to go to church to be religious. That’s so bs right there
Posted on 10/28/21 at 3:05 pm to WhodatLSU95
You don’t need a pastor. Go read the rules. I got an exemption as a Pagan baw. I actually am a Pagan by definition as I’m not Christian. Most important thing is you have to not give them reason to believe you have ulterior reasons for the exception. Not liking Biden, hating shots, etc, aren’t good reasons. Has to be because it would damage your relationship with your religion.
Posted on 10/28/21 at 6:22 pm to DJNOS1978
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Is sure "seems" to violate the first amendment.
The first amendment says that Congress shall make no laws establishing a national religion or preventing the free exercise of religion.
It does not have anything to do with Ochsner and granting exemptions to employment conditions based on religious grounds.
Posted on 10/28/21 at 10:51 pm to WhodatLSU95
Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster? Maybe they could finally serve a useful purpose...
Posted on 10/28/21 at 11:31 pm to Targeting_penalty
My NP gave me a real COVID-19 vaccine card for $1000.
Posted on 10/28/21 at 11:35 pm to chryso
quote:Well gee, if you put it that way...
So you are looking for a pastor who will lie for you?
This post was edited on 10/28/21 at 11:36 pm
Posted on 10/29/21 at 7:02 am to WhodatLSU95
Bro, you should be proud to not be vaccinated! Why you trying to hide? Proudly accept the consequences.
Posted on 10/29/21 at 11:25 pm to DrEdgeLSU
Posted on 10/29/21 at 11:37 pm to WhodatLSU95
Does any church really have in its dogma that it’s members are not to get vaccinated?
Posted on 11/1/21 at 11:21 am to DJNOS1978
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Ocshner cannot fire employees
This has nothing to do with the First Amendment. This is a challenge to Ochsner's mandate and the Louisiana state constitution
Either way, this ruling is a stay in enforcement while a challenge is adjudicated. This is not a ruling stating that one side is correct.
Posted on 11/1/21 at 11:25 am to Spankum
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Does any church really have in its dogma that it’s members are not to get vaccinated
Not specifically. That doesn’t matter though. If your reason for something is that it would damage your relationship with your beliefs, you can be exempt provided it doesn’t put the company at risk to accommodate you. I don’t even think you have to believe in a God at all. It just has to do with a religious practice.
There is published guidance, with examples, from the government. Interesting read.
Posted on 11/1/21 at 11:30 am to notsince98
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you can be your own pastor or leader. There is no definition of what "religion" is that requires a specific setup. You make your own religion.

Posted on 11/1/21 at 11:55 am to DJNOS1978
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Is sure "seems" to violate the first amendment.
We really have to do a better job educating people about what the constitution is and how its applied in this country.
Posted on 11/1/21 at 12:42 pm to WhodatLSU95
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Any knows a pastor or religious leader that can sign an exemption form?
If you don't know a pastor or other church leader, it seems like you may not have a religious exemption.
Posted on 11/1/21 at 12:43 pm to billjamin
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We really have to do a better job educating people about what the constitution is and how its applied in this country.
Yes.
100000x yes.
Posted on 11/1/21 at 1:16 pm to BeerMoney
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Not specifically. That doesn’t matter though. If your reason for something is that it would damage your relationship with your beliefs, you can be exempt provided it doesn’t put the company at risk to accommodate you. I don’t even think you have to believe in a God at all. It just has to do with a religious practice.
Nah, that's not how it works. It needs to be "sincerely held religious beliefs". This indicates you have to have a history of participating in a religion and have either refused medical treatment/procedures on religious grounds in the past or the belief you've proven to follow have a history of abstaining from vaccination.
Gotten a flu shot in the last couple of years? Say goodbye to your religious exemption.
Also, third party companies are picking up a lot of these exemption reviews for corporate America. You can't just give a wink and a nod to your boss with a bullshite note and think you're good to go. These third party reviewers don't play around.
Posted on 11/1/21 at 2:00 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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Nah, that's not how it works. It needs to be "sincerely held religious beliefs". This indicates you have to have a history of participating in a religion and have either refused medical treatment/procedures on religious grounds in the past or the belief you've proven to follow have a history of abstaining from vaccination.
Gotten a flu shot in the last couple of years? Say goodbye to your religious exemption.
You're not completely wrong. It's evaluated on a case by case basis. But the EEOC Section 12 Manual specifically says you don't have to be scrupulous in your observance.(search for scrupulous if you don't want to read all that shite) But you are absolutely right that the person has to be thought sincere by the investigator. So if you have a previous history of vaccination, better have a sincere reason for not wanting this one.
The examples are helpful as well. You have to choose your words wisely when making a request for an exemption.
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