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re: Reaching out to veterinarians…
Posted on 6/4/23 at 11:34 am to REB BEER
Posted on 6/4/23 at 11:34 am to REB BEER
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50# dog should be fine. We had a dog last year take strike to the face by a cottonmouth and then she went ahead and killed it. She swoll up on one side of her face and slobbered a bunch. But she was fine the next day.
Hell, the size of the pup doesn't even matter a lot of times. I've seen little terriers that have become super heroes as far as snakes are concerned. One could get bit two or three times by a cotton mouth and keep rolling until it finally kills it and then eats it. It maybe would get a little sleepy for a bit, but that may have had as much to do with the fresh meal as the bites.
I've seen dachshunds do the same thing. If you've never seen two or three dachshunds snake hunt, check youtube for some videos. Those are vicious creatures.
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Posted on 6/4/23 at 12:20 pm to LegendInMyMind
You will know pretty quickly if it is a dry bite vs a serious envenomation. The later usually have the area turning black due clotting issues and necrosis. For some reason, one sees more of the latter around the lower limbs vs face. As long as the swelling around face doesn’t impact their breathing they usually do fine with infection the biggest issue. Giving antihistamines or steroids apparently doesn’t really change much, and sometimes cause other issues. Pain meds would probably help out. Vast majority of bites are dry bites, but the species of snake matters, and more importantly at this time of year, the age of the snake. Juvenile snakes can’t control their venom so each bite is going to be full effect.
The downside to the wait and see method is you end up needing more anti venom and often more intensive hospitalization dealing with the problems caused by the venom already.
The downside to the wait and see method is you end up needing more anti venom and often more intensive hospitalization dealing with the problems caused by the venom already.
Posted on 6/4/23 at 7:23 pm to PassingThrough
Thank you, PassingThrough! I’m going to take her to the vet tomorrow to get checked out. I’m sure antibiotics and pain meds would be helpful.
She was feeling much better this afternoon.
She was feeling much better this afternoon.
Posted on 6/4/23 at 10:31 pm to CaliforniaTiger
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Reaching out to veterinarians…
I know a couple Vietnam veterinarians, I'll ask them.
Posted on 6/4/23 at 10:40 pm to Bigfishchoupique
Lofty advice, mate 
Best wishes to the doggo
Best wishes to the doggo
Posted on 6/4/23 at 10:41 pm to CaliforniaTiger
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I’m sure antibiotics and pain meds would be helpful.
Spoiler alert-
They aren't going to prescribe pain meds. You might as well cancel the visit since you said the dog is already much better.
Posted on 6/4/23 at 10:42 pm to CaliforniaTiger
The OT is being very disappointing with their lack of the obvious response.
How dare someone take on the responsibility of pet ownership without the ability to properly care for that pet through the use of a veterinarian?
How dare someone take on the responsibility of pet ownership without the ability to properly care for that pet through the use of a veterinarian?
Posted on 6/4/23 at 10:45 pm to CaliforniaTiger
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heard her barking at something, she later came back and in about 45 min li noticed that under her mouth had swollen. No blood, etc.
Sounds like the dumb bitch encountered ground jackets.
Posted on 6/4/23 at 10:53 pm to Rouge
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The OT is being very disappointing with their lack of the obvious response.
How dare someone take on the responsibility of pet ownership without the ability to properly care for that pet through the use of a veterinarian?
I'd be willing to bet I've owned more dogs that lived to over 15 years than you have had dogs.
I'd be willing to guarantee I've had more snakebit dogs than you.
Give them some water. Make them comfortable. They'll be fine.
Only ever had one die, small jack russell who decided after the first rattle snake bit him, that killing that one trumped getting bit by the others. He killed all of them. Got tagged quite a few times as a result. By the time he came out from under the woodpile he collapsed and was done.
If you brought a dog to my local vet for a snakebite she'd likely ask what you want her to do? Shoot you or the dog?
Posted on 6/4/23 at 11:00 pm to CaliforniaTiger
Late to this thread and not a veterinarian, but..
Our lab was bitten on the nose by some kind of venemous snake a few years ago. Probably a cottonmouth although we never saw it. Warmish day around Christmas time. We had been duck hunting and he was sniffing around in some tall grass near where we parked the truck. Vet shot him up full of antihistamine and antibiotics and gave us DMSO lotion to rub on the bite area every two hours. It kept the wound open and he bled all over the place but he healed without a scar, despite the vet warning that the tissue around the bite. may turn necrotic.
Our lab was bitten on the nose by some kind of venemous snake a few years ago. Probably a cottonmouth although we never saw it. Warmish day around Christmas time. We had been duck hunting and he was sniffing around in some tall grass near where we parked the truck. Vet shot him up full of antihistamine and antibiotics and gave us DMSO lotion to rub on the bite area every two hours. It kept the wound open and he bled all over the place but he healed without a scar, despite the vet warning that the tissue around the bite. may turn necrotic.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 5:36 pm to Jim Rockford
It's likely the DMSO kept the wound from turning necrotic. They use it with vesicant chemotherapy infiltrations as well.
I took her to vet this AM, she gave her Clavamox (antibiotic) and Carprofen (NSAID).
Rouge, I have three dogs and they get the best care as possible. In 2019, we spent $1K a day for 4 days just to see our sweet dog die, after much suffering.
I did know that dogs can handle a snake bite fairly well, so I made the decision not to spend $600-$800 on anti-venom.
I took her to vet this AM, she gave her Clavamox (antibiotic) and Carprofen (NSAID).
Rouge, I have three dogs and they get the best care as possible. In 2019, we spent $1K a day for 4 days just to see our sweet dog die, after much suffering.
I did know that dogs can handle a snake bite fairly well, so I made the decision not to spend $600-$800 on anti-venom.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 8:54 pm to CaliforniaTiger
That happened to my grand dog. She went to er to be safe bc she had some swelling and wanted to make sure it wouldn’t affect her breathing. They can tell by a rbc blood draw if it was venomous or not. But not the kind of snake. Her bite was venomous, and my daughter thinks a copperhead bc they’d seen one before and usually check the flower beds etc bf letting the dogs out. Husband forgot to check this time and dog found a snake. Sent home with meds and told to watch for more swelling or breathing issues. They had dogs the hospital staying for snake bites. Northshore area.
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