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re: Ray Kurzweil. Google's Director of Engineering predicts Singularity by 2029
Posted on 3/17/17 at 9:44 pm to OMLandshark
Posted on 3/17/17 at 9:44 pm to OMLandshark
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I have been writing a screenplay that is more the later of your two worst case scenarios in one corporation controlling the Singularity,
Hey!! All bullshite aside, I've been working on a screenplay concerning something similar but ours is a much more comedic angle. I won't go into details but it's pretty cool that amateur writers are taking an interest in this topic. If you ever wanna trade notes, it would be cool.
Posted on 3/17/17 at 9:52 pm to 0jersey
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The only reason I made the comment about cancer is because it was brought up by more than one person in this thread who has not had much exposure to the timeline laid out by Kurzweil. Perhaps if you had more knowledge about some of the other aspects described by Kurzweil you would have a leg to stand on to support that high horse you've mounted. Curing cancer will be such a minor issue and the process used to do so will not require the massive advancement that the singularity actually entails.
Sorry if I came across like a dick, I was just trying to use levity to cover for my ignorance. Tanks for pointing out some stuff earlier and I've already ordered Our Last Invention, look forward to reading it. Again, I was just joshing you. Ya dickhead.
Posted on 3/17/17 at 10:07 pm to musick
The technology leap in the last 50 years has been unbelievably huge. And its growing at an exponential rate.
Look how long it took us to go from caves to the invention of the automobile. Then from the automobile to the plane to the missle to the rocket.
From caves to telegraphs to land lines to cell phones.
From a computer the size of a room that could do some basic calculations to a device the size of your hand that can communicate instantly via satellite link accross the world.
Look how long it took us to go from caves to the invention of the automobile. Then from the automobile to the plane to the missle to the rocket.
From caves to telegraphs to land lines to cell phones.
From a computer the size of a room that could do some basic calculations to a device the size of your hand that can communicate instantly via satellite link accross the world.
Posted on 3/17/17 at 10:11 pm to Breesus
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Ray Kurzweil. Google's Director of Engineering predicts Singularity by 2029
Should I be worried about my job?
Posted on 3/18/17 at 12:29 am to Lee Chatelain
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Should I be worried about my existence?
Posted on 3/18/17 at 12:54 am to LucasP
LucasP-
No sweat buddy. I think the singularity is such a fascinating discussion. Not just the topic of the singularity, but all of the massive advancements and improvements that we will be able to realize in our lifetimes.
I don't know your age, but it's really exciting to think about life and humanity changing technologies that have occurred already. I can remember life before the internet and before cell phones. I remember cell phones that were just phones. Look at how many people will never know an existence without the internet. It's like pre and post television, or airplanes, or antibiotics. All of these are so ubiquitous that we can't really properly imagine a life prior to these inventions.
We will be seeing a large number of these massively life altering changes over the next few decades. Now is truly the absolute best time to be alive. Maybe it will all come to a screeching halt and human existence will cease to be if the singularity kills us. But we will have had the fortune of living during this time.
No sweat buddy. I think the singularity is such a fascinating discussion. Not just the topic of the singularity, but all of the massive advancements and improvements that we will be able to realize in our lifetimes.
I don't know your age, but it's really exciting to think about life and humanity changing technologies that have occurred already. I can remember life before the internet and before cell phones. I remember cell phones that were just phones. Look at how many people will never know an existence without the internet. It's like pre and post television, or airplanes, or antibiotics. All of these are so ubiquitous that we can't really properly imagine a life prior to these inventions.
We will be seeing a large number of these massively life altering changes over the next few decades. Now is truly the absolute best time to be alive. Maybe it will all come to a screeching halt and human existence will cease to be if the singularity kills us. But we will have had the fortune of living during this time.
Posted on 3/18/17 at 12:57 am to musick
I know a basic calculator that's already smarter then several ppl I know, this is realistic
This post was edited on 3/18/17 at 1:39 am
Posted on 3/18/17 at 3:06 am to Freauxzen
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Freauxzen
I'm with you on this. The end game is the same no matter what. There is no "positive " ending to this story.
Posted on 3/18/17 at 9:25 am to 0jersey
So this post is a pretty good example of the problem I have with Kurzweil's technophile zealots (nothing against you personally, just a pattern I see with a lot of singularity optimists).
I'm 100% on board with your post all the way up to here:
The idea of "well, maybe it'll kill us all" is just shaken off like a big nothing-burger that pales in comparison to the awe of the potential tech advances. It begs the question, what technology is worth risking the existence of humanity over? Because that's what's at stake here. And unlike Kurzweil, there are a lot of AI experts who find the worst-case-scenario to be the most likely outcome.
In the chance you haven't read it, check out Our Final Invention by Barrat. He gives a strong counter argument to Kurzweil's near certainty that AI will be friendly.
But whatever the case, I'll just encourage you to not dismiss the extermination of life on earth so casually. For the first time in perhaps the entirety of human history, it's becoming a real possibility
I'm 100% on board with your post all the way up to here:
quote:This is such a disappointing thought pattern, and one that I often see repeated among AI optimists. The claim that even if AI goes wrong and exterminates all of humanity, it will have somehow been worth it just to live through the exciting build up period. And that's just nonsense.
Maybe it will all come to a screeching halt and human existence will cease to be if the singularity kills us. But we will have had the fortune of living during this time.
The idea of "well, maybe it'll kill us all" is just shaken off like a big nothing-burger that pales in comparison to the awe of the potential tech advances. It begs the question, what technology is worth risking the existence of humanity over? Because that's what's at stake here. And unlike Kurzweil, there are a lot of AI experts who find the worst-case-scenario to be the most likely outcome.
In the chance you haven't read it, check out Our Final Invention by Barrat. He gives a strong counter argument to Kurzweil's near certainty that AI will be friendly.
But whatever the case, I'll just encourage you to not dismiss the extermination of life on earth so casually. For the first time in perhaps the entirety of human history, it's becoming a real possibility
Posted on 3/18/17 at 2:02 pm to funnystuff
I'm not casually accepting humanity's extinction, but I have no control over it.
We all will die at some point, and I am comfortable enough in my own beliefs to be ok with death whenever it comes.
It's like the old saying "Worry is like a rocking chair. It gives you something to do, but it won't get you anywhere."
We all will die at some point, and I am comfortable enough in my own beliefs to be ok with death whenever it comes.
It's like the old saying "Worry is like a rocking chair. It gives you something to do, but it won't get you anywhere."
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