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re: Rank the Worst SEC States To Live In

Posted on 3/8/17 at 2:37 pm to
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 2:37 pm to
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Athens, North GA mountains, Savannah, the rest of the coast. shite even west/south west GA isn't bad it's just not very inhabited.



Athens, select part of the mountains, Savannah, Atlanta. That's pretty much it. Much of the burbs, the outer burbs, Albany, Macon, Columbus, Tifton, Bainbridge, Lagrange, Augusta, Statesboro, Dublin, Rome, Valdosta...all of those places have a handful of combined charms and otherwise have a whole lot of awfulness.

Atlanta is cookie cutter in the sense that it is a newer high tier major city, but I'm going to guess you don't spend much time in Atlanta. It's fine, I know a lot of people out in the suburbs that are the same way, and frankly, I tend to dislike Atlantans who shite on the rest of the state for no reason.

But Atlanta has more going on right now than at any point in its history. Parts of town abandoned decades ago are coming back strong. Business, art, food, beer, etc.

If you think Atlanta is cookie cutter, I can't imagine what you'll call Rome/Augusta/Macon. A lot of awesome shite going on Albany these days?

Posted by LSU Patrick
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 2:46 pm to
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1. Mississippi


This
This post was edited on 3/8/17 at 2:48 pm
Posted by TheXman
Middle America
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 2:48 pm to
Atlanta is obviously the economic engine of the state, that is not disputed.

I went to UGA and have spent a lot of time in Atlanta (I've actually spent zero time in the suburbs).

It just doesn't have any sense of personality or common culture. I know that is largely due to it being a transient city, but I'm not sure. I assume you live in Atlanta and like it. Good for you. I would just never live there for many reasons. Traffic is one I forgot to mention. I have friends who will sit in traffic an hour each way every day to go 8-10 miles.

I've lived in Dallas and it is much like that where everything is new development/doesn't have much charisma. I also don't like hot weather and Atlanta is a sauna from May-August.

I actually like Augusta. Although it's obviously a lot uglier than Augusta National makes it look on tv. Rome is a great little town too.

Macon, Albany, Dublin and the rest of that area in the middle of the state.... Not so much.




Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 2:48 pm to
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I suspect all three of those cities will, in time, seem more nativist.



lets hope so. there is a push for texas beer, arts, food and music. what we need is a mayor to make it a priority.

i do love atlanta, though. tried to work there a few years back
Posted by knight_ryder
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 2:51 pm to
Fort Worth is the most genuine city in Texas. Perfect mix of a large and small city.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 2:56 pm to
I grew up here (GA) and have spent a lot of time in Athens, Rome and Atlanta. Honestly, I used to hate on Atlanta, I either wanted to live in a medium sized non suburb town or a suburb.

But there is a lot going on here. It's true that a city like Atlanta or Dallas just can't compare to older cities who've been major cities for 100 years. But Atlanta has a lot going for it right now, and it's one of the best cities in the country for living in a neighborhood IN the actual city. I walked my dog at about 6PM yesterday (rare, I'm usually not home yet), and saw probably 15 or so neighbors in a 20 minute span out with their kids and dogs. And this is in town.

I just think you can get almost everything good about Augusta in Atlanta. Augusta, however, lacks a ton of what Atlanta offers and has almost everything bad Atlanta offers. I'm not a universal acceptance guy, so I take no issue with you liking something I don't like.

Honestly, I'd like to live in an Augusta or Rome sized town (non-suburb) where there are plenty of grounded, well-educated folks and there is enough to do, but outside of the larger college towns, I'm not sure that exists much in the South.
Posted by LSU Patrick
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 2:56 pm to
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I actually like Augusta. Although it's obviously a lot uglier than Augusta National makes it look on tv. Rome is a great little town too.


I grew up just across the state line in North Augusta. The town of Augusta is pretty cool for its size, but many of the towns surrounding it are trash.

I agree about Rome. A lot of those little towns up near the mountains are nice (i.e. Gainsville, Chatsworth, Elijay, etc.).
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 2:58 pm to
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I agree about Rome. A lot of those little towns up near the mountains are nice (i.e. Gainsville, Chatsworth, Elijay, etc.).



bruh

Posted by LSU Patrick
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 3:00 pm to
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Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 3:02 pm to
haha i'm not criticizing your spelling, I'm shitting on Gainesville
Posted by TheXman
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 3:03 pm to
Your post made me realize that my biggest problem with Atlanta might just be the size itself.

That was my least favorite thing about Dallas. 6-7 million people in one place is too much for me, but obviously a lot of people love it/are stuck for a job.

I agree that those sized towns are the perfect place to live. I guess in the south you have Chattanooga, Greenville (awesome place), Wilmington NC, Huntsville, and not technically in the south but Springfield, MO is awesome.

I also agree that a college town is not ideal when you're older. Athens was a great place to go to college but I would hate living there now.
Posted by LSU Patrick
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 3:05 pm to
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haha i'm not criticizing your spelling, I'm shitting on Gainesville


Fair enough
Posted by LSU Patrick
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 3:08 pm to
Getting around Atlanta is a pain in the arse for sure. I liked going for a visit, but I can't imagine living there.
Posted by Buffweazel
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 3:08 pm to
Walmart and requiring some of their vendors to have offices nearby.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 3:09 pm to
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I also agree that a college town is not ideal when you're older. Athens was a great place to go to college but I would hate living there now.



Although I think college towns are increasingly destinations for retirees. Probably for the reason we're talking about (enough to do, local restaurants and stuff, but not too huge).

It's just so weird when you hear about small and medium sized towns in New England or Northern California where people somehow have money and are well educated despite not having much in the way of local economy. That just doesn't really exist down here, but it sounds nice. Mid sized but not major cities like Chatt and Greenville are about the best you can do here, I agree.
Posted by CelticDog
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 3:11 pm to
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5. Kentucky- pretty scenery but not much else


bass fishing

basketball



Posted by TheXman
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 3:13 pm to
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It's just so weird when you hear about small and medium sized towns in New England or Northern California where people somehow have money and are well educated despite not having much in the way of local economy. That just doesn't really exist down here, but it sounds nice. Mid sized but not major cities like Chatt and Greenville are about the best you can do here, I agree.


This is going to sound racist, but it's really just straight demographics... The smaller town in New England, Northern CA and the Pacific NW are mostly white... In the south that is not the case...

Also I think the worst part of living in a college town would be seeing what all goes down and being nostalgic despite being say 35, married and having 3 kids lol.
Posted by LSU Patrick
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 3:14 pm to
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bass fishing

basketball


bluegrass

prisoners cleaning the highways
Posted by Hawgeye
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 3:20 pm to
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comparing an old suburb vs farmland that has just become the brand new mcmansionville. What led to this?


Bentonville is the home for Walmart and its headquarters. Its also within spitting distance of Tyson Headquarters and JB Hunt Headquarters.

Over the last 35 or so years more and more vendors have put offices in the Northwest Arkansas area, including Bentonville. Nearly 1,300 suppliers for Walmart have moved offices in Bentonville or to the area in NWA.

Ill copy some parts of an article and link it at the end of the post just so you get an idea of how the area has boomed and why it is so nice.

quote:

More than 20 years after the death of Sam Walton, nearly 1,300 suppliers have set up offices within a 27-mile radius of Wal-Mart’s home office in Bentonville.


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GROWING CRITICAL MASS
The local supplier community grew rather quickly following P&G’s lead. In 1994, there were 48 supplier offices in the local area. In the next six years, that number would increase ten-fold.

In 2003, there were more than 800 offices, peaking at 1,232 by the 2008 recession, according to CSA data.


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LOCAL ADVANTAGE
Wal-Mart’s enormous scale and low-cost expectations means that many times it will be the largest customer for most of its product providers.

There are a few dozen suppliers with fairly large offices – P&G being one of the largest with more than 200 employees in Fayetteville. But the vast majority of supplier offices are largely no-frill and staffed to handle close, day-to-day sales meetings with Wal-Mart, if need be.


LINK

This post was edited on 3/8/17 at 3:21 pm
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 3:24 pm to
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This is going to sound racist, but it's really just straight demographics... The smaller town in New England, Northern CA and the Pacific NW are mostly white... In the south that is not the case...



Well, that and the fact that there are pockets of rural and small town wealthy whites in other parts of the country that don't exist as much here. You have some old money in small southern towns, but usually that's more old money status than actual old money money.

The closest we might have to what I'm talking about would be destination towns that have a local population. Highlands and Cashiers, for example.

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