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re: Race Not Motivation in Chicago Facebook Attack

Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:18 am to
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
17230 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:18 am to
Literally on tape shouting "frick white people" and "frick Donald Trump" as they punch, kick, cut, and shove the face of into the toilet, a white person that they have kidnapped.

Nope, not race related whatsoever.

But let some back woods rednecks do something like this to a special needs black guy and say the N-word or Obama once and tell me how the crime is portrayed and classified. And lord knows it would be exclaimed as an indication that widespread racism and terror is still very much alive, blah, blah.

I surely don't think you'd hear news and authority figures saying "no, I don't think it's evil, they are victims of poor upbringing" or "this is socioeconomic more than racial" or "they are just kids who screwed up."
Posted by GEAUXmedic
Premium Member
Member since Nov 2011
42053 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:18 am to
quote:

Is specifically targeting a special needs person considered a hate crime? Awww it won't matter anyways because Chicago and it's Obama crony mayor will probably just allow these thugs to get parole.



YES

The two key requirements for an act to be called a "disability hate crime" are that it is motivated in part or whole by prejudice against someone because of disability; and second, that the act is actually a crime.

In the United States, the Matthew Shepard and James Byrd Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act of 2009 expanded the 1969 United States federal hate-crime law to include crimes motivated by a victim's actual or perceived disability.

Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70176 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:18 am to
quote:

I was thinking that there may be more to this than the assumptions that everyone had


Well just remember if it was 4 white kids beating up a retarded black guy while screaming the n word...there may be more to it than racism.
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
33737 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:18 am to
"frick White People!" doesn't sound racist at all to me.

Posted by GEAUXmedic
Premium Member
Member since Nov 2011
42053 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:19 am to


Posted by AZTarheeel
Member since Feb 2015
3702 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:19 am to
They need some riots, fires, and maybe some snackbars in Chicago.

What a corrupt POS city.
Posted by GEAUXmedic
Premium Member
Member since Nov 2011
42053 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:20 am to
Then of course, there's this fricking race baiting asshat. One of the people in this world who consume too much oxygen.


Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:20 am to
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70176 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:20 am to
according to Easy not those 4 black guys in chicago
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:21 am to
Posted by BamaHater
Houston
Member since Sep 2003
13550 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:21 am to
So what happens when the White people march down the Dan Ryan, block traffic while wearing White Lives Matter T Shirts?
This post was edited on 1/5/17 at 10:22 am
Posted by LSUfanNkaty
LC, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
11967 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:22 am to


Ok, I try and mind my own business when it comes to this shite... but that crossed the line. That is fricking incredibly terrible
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
40765 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:22 am to
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They literally say "frick you and frick white people" multiple times throughout the video.



you don't understand. That was after they had kidnapped him. We need to have a video of them while kidnapping him and them clear stating "frick white people" for it to be a hate crime.

Assaulting someone while saying "frick white people" is just boys being boys.


All this is societies fault anyway
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122525 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:22 am to
That's some bullshite. I didn't watch the whole video, maybe they didn't say anything about race, but you can make a case that the Donald Trump comments were race related, but if a black dude was a "trump supporter" would they have done the same thing?

I hate getting into the race thing and saying "well if it was this way it would have been that way", but I am pretty sure if this were white kids who had a black kid and was doing the same thing saying "frick Obama". It would probably be labeled different.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21836 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:22 am to
Exactly.

I mean if 4 men tied up and tortured a person of the opposite race and screamed "ni**er", "frick whitey" and "frick Trump" at them for a while, why would they assume racism was a motive?
This post was edited on 1/5/17 at 10:26 am
Posted by AceHole
Your mothers bedroom
Member since Mar 2012
973 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:22 am to
used "than" and "then" properly, not a real black guy.
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
26221 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:22 am to
I suspect that Donald Trump's AG will handle this matter once in office.
Posted by phutureisyic
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2016
3618 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:24 am to
Well I won't be visiting Chicago anytime soon. Their pizza isn't that good.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
85485 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:24 am to
shite like this is THE reason Trump won. Thank god. They'll bend over backward to maintain the fiction that only whites can be racist. Those monsters didn't yell anything about the guy being special needs.
Posted by TheAlmightySmash
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2014
5493 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:26 am to
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targeted because he has "special needs,"


Someone should reread the criteria for a hate crime because attacking someone with a disability for that reason alone IS A HATE CRIME
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