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re: Question Regarding ITEP and ExxonMobil
Posted on 2/9/20 at 7:49 pm to TigerstuckinMS
Posted on 2/9/20 at 7:49 pm to TigerstuckinMS
That doesn't answer the question.
Or maybe it does. Move the goalposts.
Or maybe it does. Move the goalposts.
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Posted on 2/9/20 at 7:57 pm to fightin tigers
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That doesn't answer the question.
Or maybe it does. Move the goalposts.
Part of the contract stipulates the conditions under which the local taxing authorities will be notified by LED that the terms required for the abatement are not being met.
This post was edited on 2/9/20 at 7:59 pm
Posted on 2/9/20 at 8:17 pm to fightin tigers
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That's why companies only get profits taxed, right?
First off, the money the companies made was made via others trading their money for that companies goods/service. What makes you or anyone else entitled to their money?
Posted on 2/9/20 at 8:29 pm to Cold Drink
don’t be ignorant. Louisiana would be a 3rd world country without O&G.
Posted on 2/9/20 at 8:30 pm to jnethe1
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What makes you or anyone else entitled to their money?
What makes you entitled to my money?
Posted on 2/9/20 at 8:31 pm to fightin tigers
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What makes you entitled to my money?
I never suggested, nor came close to suggesting, that I was entitled to your money.
Posted on 2/9/20 at 8:33 pm to fightin tigers
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I want to see someone defend not raising minimum wage to $15/hr and defend the homestead exemption.
I don’t have a strong opinion on the homestead exemption, but a $15 minimum wage is a stupid idea. If you want me to defend that, I’ll let you do it instead. Just argue against a $150 minimum wage and apply the same arguments.
Posted on 2/9/20 at 8:37 pm to fightin tigers
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I want to see someone defend not raising minimum wage to $15/hr and defend the homestead exemption.
Raising the minimum wage is artificially increasing the value for millions and millions of people who’s work just isn’t worth $15/hour. Go ahead and approve them that wage, and guess what... the market will adjust for it. Restaurants will increase their prices, stores will charge more, gas will cost more, everything everywhere will go up in accordance to the amount of artificial increase you gave these people. So in the end, you’ll have given them more money, but everything will cost more. What good will that do? They will have the same amount of buying power as before.
This post was edited on 2/9/20 at 8:38 pm
Posted on 2/9/20 at 9:06 pm to Penrod
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don’t have a strong opinion on the homestead exemptio
Apply your logic why a $150 minimum wage doesn't make sense to homestead exemption.
Posted on 2/9/20 at 9:07 pm to jnethe1
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I never suggested, nor came close to suggesting, that I was entitled to your money
So you take the utopian Libertarian stance. No taxes for anyone.
Posted on 2/9/20 at 10:38 pm to fightin tigers
Taxes upon people allows the government to pick winners and losers. A large percentage of our country pays no taxes at all and their only form of income is from entitlement programs that are generated from the taxes of others. So this is nothing more than the government rewarding them for existing, and punishing those who have made positive contributions for absolutely no reason. When are we to expect these people who live off of government entitlement programs to make the necessary changes in their lives to be positive contributors to society if they are constantly being rewarded for making none?
Posted on 2/9/20 at 10:45 pm to jnethe1
You are literally putting an entity above a citizen. Saying you are willing to give taxing preference to a non-voting non-citizen. You are willing to give governmental assistance to the non-voting non-citizen.
It may be your political stance, and I am completely ok with it. You stand for what you stand for.
It may be your political stance, and I am completely ok with it. You stand for what you stand for.
Posted on 2/9/20 at 10:54 pm to fightin tigers
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You are literally putting an entity above a citizen.
That “entity” is built and run by people (citizens).
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Saying you are willing to give taxing preference to a non-voting non-citizen. You are willing to give governmental assistance to the non-voting non-citizen. It may be your political stance, and I am completely ok with it. You stand for what you stand for.
Never once mentioned anything regarding giving preferential treatment to non-citizens. But thanks for randomly giving your opinion.
Posted on 2/9/20 at 10:56 pm to jnethe1
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That “entity” is built and run by people (citizens).
Maybe. The beneficiary is likely not a local citizen and possibly not a citizen at all.
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Never once mentioned anything regarding giving preferential treatment to non-citizens.
The directional accusation was sufficient to determine that.
Posted on 2/10/20 at 12:13 am to fightin tigers
The corporate tax breaks on real estate is a double edged sword. If you give the tax break then you're giving up money that could be used to better your schools, infrastructure, etc. but you're also gaining jobs which can pay back into the tax system. If you don't give these corporations these tax breaks they will pack up their bags and go to surrounding states such as Texas and expand over there rather than Louisiana. Clearly these tax breaks have worked very well for Texas seeing how the overall infrastructure and quality of life is better. How do you find that middle ground of being competitive while not giving everything up?
Posted on 2/10/20 at 6:44 am to tigersfan1989
Those aren’t the only jobs that will be added. Turn around jobs are temporary but generally high paying. Add in contacts for equipment rentals and maintenance and suppliers from gloves to iron and pipe.
I suggest people investigating the value of these jobs go to a contractors gate like south gate at Exxon. See for your self the the white, black and brown people making good wages. Most don’t have college degrees but are making good wages. It is an opportunity to advance to the middle class that would not be replaced if these plants went away.
I understand there has to be a value to these programs but this is more complex than an article in the advocate.
I suggest people investigating the value of these jobs go to a contractors gate like south gate at Exxon. See for your self the the white, black and brown people making good wages. Most don’t have college degrees but are making good wages. It is an opportunity to advance to the middle class that would not be replaced if these plants went away.
I understand there has to be a value to these programs but this is more complex than an article in the advocate.
Posted on 2/10/20 at 6:57 am to 20 ton
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Those aren’t the only jobs that will be added. Turn around jobs are temporary but generally high paying. Add in contacts for equipment rentals and maintenance and suppliers from gloves to iron and pipe.
Agreed. Those don't get counted in the metrics, but they're there. I'd imagine when they set this up, the people in LEDA have some kind of studies to better help them gauge the economic impact of a project that tells them how many other full time positions will be created by other companies as a result of the increased demand for contract and service employees to support each direct new position the manufacturing company creates. That way they'd be more effective at writing and evaluating the agreements.
This post was edited on 2/10/20 at 6:58 am
Posted on 2/10/20 at 6:58 am to fightin tigers
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If he is going to defend their need for tax breaks to allow them to be innovators and creators.
The tax breaks are supposed to be designed to incentivize a large industrial project to start and not tax the property while the project is being built...again supposed.
I'm on a billion dollar project that is only creating 100 new jobs. The ITEP allows the company to save a little bit of money before the new unit becomes operational/profitable.
Posted on 2/10/20 at 6:58 am to fightin tigers
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I want to see someone defend not raising minimum wage to $15/hr and defend the homestead exemption.
Lol so when thousands lose their jobs because of a 15 dollar minimum wage you would want to couple that with pulling their homestead exemption?
Posted on 2/10/20 at 7:00 am to BeepNode
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demanding that the state step in and over-rule local tax issues that were passed in fair elections
It's Louisiana. Baton Rouge has a mayor-president suing her own constituents because she didn't like the result of a fair election.
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