re: Question for OT baws: What's with the OT's love of trade schools?

Law school harder than you thought eh?

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i have two degrees working on number 3

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What in?

Just curious as to why you'd keep going back for more degrees.

I've never said you can't make money with a trade nor did I say trade schools aren't needed.

My point is that the university/student loan threads that turn into anti university/pro vo tech circle jerks are odd for a forum where hundreds of posters brag about their education every time we have a degree thread.

Rubio needs to start working out with goldennugget and Rennis Rinke

Sadly, you've got to convince "educators" that it's a viable option. Then you have to convince the parents and the culture that seems, now, to think that even a Bachelors is not enough for a good job anymore.

Many teachers and school administrators think if kids don't go to college that they ("educators") have failed. Then the administrators who are touting their college acceptance numbers as a selling point for their "college prep." curricula, have to think about this, too.

I once worked (CSB) at a high-end, independent school in greater New Orleans. Great school, sharp kids, expensive, good place to work...one, ONE, upper school student, one year, decided she was going to enlist in the Air Force. Oh my Lord, the shitstorm that caused amongst the faculty and administration, was like nothing I've experienced before. They couldn't tout "100% College Acceptance"

And this ties back in with the great idea as well that we need to look at closing some universities in this state.
Start with SUNO and then find two more.

shite, they're building new buildings out at SUNO, but this is for another thread.

Holder of 2 degrees checking in.

I think trade schools are great. Way too many people go to college just because it is culturally the next step after high school.

I would actually prefer a higher ed system more like Europe where spots at university must be earned. That's how they can afford "free college," not everyone and their mom can get in. I believe they have seperate tracks in high school for college v non-college bound students.

I think the OT's love of trade schools is based one of two things.

1. This thought: "I have a degree, so you don't need one. Trade school would be good for you." People like to recommend things to other people that they would never do, because they subconsciously don't like competition - real or imagined.

2. Also, this thought: "I went to a trade school, and I'm a real worker. Everyone else is a pussy." No further explanation needed.

This argument is one of the most frequent and most pointless of all arguments on the OT. Here's the thing: there's no such thing as a useless degree.

It might be useless for YOU, but not to the person who has it.

I was a liberal arts major. I've had good, steady employment for nearly 30 years, with no lapses at all. I pay all of my bills. I've sent my kids to private schools. A welder's certification would be useless to me. I don't enjoy welding. I don't want to do it for a living. I don't want to do hard labor for a living.

The work I do, I can do until I'm 80 years old or more, and it will hardly feel like work. Why in the ever-loving frick would someone like me want to do trade school?

What's more important than anything is work ethic and willpower. Every single job market has competition, whether you're a plumber or a photographer. If you're good, you will get paid. To all the people out there with liberal arts degrees and lots of college debt, I say, don't go to trade school... start creating shite! Start businesses, elevate your side gig to full-time, innovate, bust arse. Don't be a chickenshit. This is not hard.