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re: Question for non gun owners
Posted on 7/18/16 at 12:31 am to Dead End
Posted on 7/18/16 at 12:31 am to Dead End
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I don't believe you, but I'll play
Good. Exactly what we need. An open minded discussion about the issue. Although starting with "I don't believe you" probably isn't the best approach.
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An Australian gun grab is the ultimate end game for regressives, but that wasn't mentioned in this thread.
Australian gun grab?! Really?! Absolutely not going to happen here, nor do I want it to. Don't just assume that just because I have a problem with civilians owning these types of weapons means I am A) against the 2nd Amendment or B) looking to confiscate everyone's guns.
In fact, this seems to be the underlying problem with most of these types of debates. You are either red or blue, for or against, Republican or Democrat. Don't be so quick to put people in these boxes. Have a discussion & figure out a logical solution. Typical of society today that everything has to be a quick fix. This is a difficult problem...but there are plenty of smart, well-intentioned people on all sides of this argument. Let's figure it out.
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Do you think an AR15 should be restricted because it's scary looking?
Do you disagree that Americans have a right to selfdefense?
Of course not-read my response to Rando.
And yes, everyone has a right to self-defense. Which means we all have to be armed like fricking Rambo?! Doesn't sound like a place I want to live or raise my children.
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You can wonder about my statement all you want, but if you haven't seen it in real life then you have no fricking clue so stop pretending.
I'll take a step back here. I have no idea what you have seen or been through.
And thanks to lsunurse for addressing the reality of the accidents with kids in the home with guns. My wife is also a nurse & has seen these tragedies first-hand. As responsible as we all may believe ourselves to be, we are human. We all make mistakes. Which is really the one reason I have never had a gun in my home. If my child or a friend or whatever circumstance led to an accident...just can't imagine living with that. And again I have no problem with responsible gun ownership for self-defense. It's just not a choice I feel is right for my family. By all means do what you have to do. But you don't need a semiautomatic weapon to do that.
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Posted on 7/18/16 at 12:32 am to drizztiger
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It was a pathetic failure compared to the AK.
Bull shite.
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The ar15 is easily upgradeable, meh, kind of.
Bull shite.
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I have a few older hunting rifles which accept 30 round mags and will outshoot an AR15 and AK all day long.
Bull shite.
Are we really going to debate the reliability and functionality of the AK platform vs the ar15
I said the ar15 was kind of upgradeable to the be an equivalent to the m16. Illegally without a clqss3 and you have to be semi competent. I also said I can make an ar15 lower fairly easily out of plastic or wood. So what?
As for older hunting rifles, a few brownings and a pair of ruger minis say you have no idea what you're talking about.
And the rugers will chew through ammo like an AK without hiccup.
I'm fairly drunk after all of this day drinking, but I believe that covers everything.
Posted on 7/18/16 at 12:34 am to ThoseGuys
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Dorchester (Boston) is WAY more dangerous than BR
And yet BRs murder rate is higher.
Name places outside of Springfield and a couple parts of the Boston area that are dangerous.....
BR murder rate = 27.6 per 100,000
Dorchester murder rate = 9 per 100,000 (that's actually all of Boston)
not even close. And even still, that crime is almost all contained to certain areas.
Living 10 minutes from downtown Hartford, we didn't even worry about locking doors. No one I know anywhere near BR would probably feel like this.
Again, just different perspectives. COULD something happen? Sure, but it is so unlikely in a lot of places that people do not feel the need to own guns.
This post was edited on 7/18/16 at 12:39 am
Posted on 7/18/16 at 12:38 am to X123F45
Put a black stock on a 10/22 and it magically transforms into a mass killing machine
Posted on 7/18/16 at 12:39 am to X123F45
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I prefer my vepr 12, but that's because of the shock and awe effect of thousands and thousands of projectiles in the air.
Wow. You sound reasonable.
Posted on 7/18/16 at 12:41 am to Hammertime
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Put a black stock on a 10/22 and it magically transforms into a mass killing machine
Bingo.
Wonder how my mp1522 goea over. 25 round mag. Optic. Forward grip. Flashlight. Flash hider.
...and yet it still shoots .22 bullets
Damned fine gun for armadillos in the garden though.
Posted on 7/18/16 at 12:44 am to zmonsoon
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Wow. You sound reasonable.
Well low brass bird shot won't punch through drywall at 30ft, so I'm not only reasonable, I'm considerate and safe too.
Amazing how language can frame thinga in a disingenuous fashion
Posted on 7/18/16 at 12:44 am to X123F45
quote:Yeah, that's unimportant.
Are we really going to debate the reliability and functionality of the AK platform vs the ar15
Let me sidetrack here and answer me later. Assault rifles aside, polls show 85% of US is in favor of background checks on private and gun show firearm sales. You support?
Posted on 7/18/16 at 12:47 am to Clames
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Effective at killing people but not well suited for self-defense? Did that make a lot of sense in that little brain of yours before you typed it
Maybe we should define what is meant by general self-defense then? Call me crazy for thinking an AR15 might be a bit inefficient to conceal/access quickly whenow faced with an "oh shite someone is in my house" situation.
Was gonna take the high road in the debate but you are clearly incapable. Which probably explains why you feel the need to have this type of weapon. So...
Face it, you just want a big gun toy to play with to make up for your inability to please a woman.
Posted on 7/18/16 at 12:47 am to drizztiger
Private sales = impossible. What about giving guns to relatives or passing them down to family?
Gun shows = you're a fricking moron that watches too much MSNBC
Gun shows = you're a fricking moron that watches too much MSNBC
Posted on 7/18/16 at 12:50 am to drizztiger
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Assault rifles aside, polls show 85% of US is in favor of background checks on private and gun show firearm sales. You support?
Those two are not the same thing. 99.99% of all gunshow trqnsactions take place through an FFL and require a background check to be submitted. Private sales between individuals are not possible to regulate without a national database of all firearms. With over 300 million firearms already in the US, it would be unenforceable.
It is a feel good measure for an uninformed public.
I can't help that in your falsely created statistical world the populace is incapable of using logic and reason.
Posted on 7/18/16 at 12:52 am to zmonsoon
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Face it, you just want a big gun toy to play with to make up for your inability to please a woman.
You wear skinny jeans don't you?
I tried them once, felt like my cack and balls were being bisected by a very dull denim razor.
Eta: I'm still fairly hammered amd have to be at the gym in a few hours, so feel free to go at each others' throats.
Goodnight.
This post was edited on 7/18/16 at 12:57 am
Posted on 7/18/16 at 12:55 am to CP3
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violence can, and will occur anywhere
Although statistics show that violent crime has been declining for decades, many people don't feel safer...I assume because of enhanced media coverage. The recent events were certainly not random so I don't feel any less safe but I do have great concern for law enforcement personnel.
To answer the OP's question, I don’t own a gun and I don't intend to get one, but should conditions change (I live in a very safe part of the country), I would not hesitate to do so if I thought one was needed to protect my family
Posted on 7/18/16 at 1:01 am to zmonsoon
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Face it, you just want a big gun toy to play with to make up for your inability to please a woman.
That trite old line isn't making any points. I imagine you don't know crap about firearms, particularly ARs
Posted on 7/18/16 at 1:06 am to drizztiger
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bullshite. He's quoted just as recently on HBO Real Sports stating the AR15/M16 wasn't designed for civilian use and doesn't believe it fits civilian use.
He wasn't quoted and has been dead for nearly 20 years you belligerent little tard...
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The frick I don't.
You don't and you keep proving it...
Posted on 7/18/16 at 1:09 am to Chad504boy
I had a friend that said she didn't need gun, she lived in a "safe" area, and had a big dog, the guy that killed her waited until she let the dog out into the back yard before going in.
Posted on 7/18/16 at 1:09 am to ninthward
Even though those who do not own guns in this thread have shown support for the right to bear arms, I love the comments from those who own guns telling us why we need to buy guns .
Posted on 7/18/16 at 1:12 am to zmonsoon
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Call me crazy for thinking an AR15 might be a bit inefficient to conceal/access quickly whenow faced with an "oh shite someone is in my house" situation.
Compared to a pump action shotgun which is a popular recommendation here? Pretty sure my AR is exactly as easy to conceal (which isn't a concern in my own house) and just as accessible as my shotgun. You are a pretty stupid person on this topic...
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Face it, you just want a big gun toy to play with to make up for your inability to please a woman.
Your mom never complains you dick-obsessed little loser...
Posted on 7/18/16 at 1:14 am to LSUTANGERINE
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Even though those who do not own guns in this thread have shown support for the right to bear arms, I love the comments from those who own guns telling us why we need to buy guns .
Isn't there a few BLM threads you should be patrolling kid? Don't embarrass yourself here.
Posted on 7/18/16 at 1:16 am to LSUTANGERINE
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I love the comments from those who own guns telling us why we need to buy guns .
Most people mistakenly believe the police protect them. They don't.
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