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re: Question about marines

Posted on 2/17/15 at 9:17 am to
Posted by lsu480
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Posted on 2/17/15 at 9:17 am to
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I always thought marines were supposed to be badass. I'm not saying they aren't, but I know someone who used to be an active marine. He's very small with no muscle and he has the attitude of a millennial. He doesn't like to work and he is lazy. Are the marines getting lazy or is this guy an outlier?



They are all lazy millenials with no muscle, every single one
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 2/17/15 at 9:18 am to
The only time I ever had a lot of interaction with Marines was when I was at Ft. Knox at the US Army Armor School. The Marines send their tankers there to train to crew tanks. From what I saw of the Marine recruit tankers, the only difference between them and Army tankers was their headgear, how they rolled up their BDU blouse sleeves, and the odd way their DI's called cadence when marching. Army formations when marching sing cadence (Jody calls, etc.) and the drill Sargent actually give verbal commands like "to the left, march!". But the Marine recruit tankers never sang cadence and their DIs did not give actual word commands when marching. Instead they'd do some sort of series of unintelligible grunts almost like some sort of code that told the formation what to do. It was odd to say the least.

Maybe it's different for non-combat arms MOS troops, but there's not really much difference between combat arms Army soldiers and Marines from what I saw. At least that was the case back in the early 90s.
Posted by lsu480
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Posted on 2/17/15 at 9:20 am to
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Exactly most military members are not combat trained.


I thought everyone had to do basic training? Isn't that training you for combat?
Posted by lsu480
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Posted on 2/17/15 at 9:24 am to
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He's very small with no muscle


You do understand that most Navy Seals are built this way right?



They are small with no muscle? They aren't typically 6"5 bodybuilders but most aren't small with "no muscle".
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 2/17/15 at 9:28 am to
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Exactly most military members are not combat trained.


I thought everyone had to do basic training? Isn't that training you for combat?




Not sure if this is still the case, but back in the 80's when I enlisted there was a big difference in how combat arms MOSs trained compared to non-combat arms. For combat arms MOS soldiers we had what was called OSUT (One Station Unit Training) where from day one your training centered around your MOS (Armor, Artillery, Cavalry, or Infantry). This training varied in time depending on the MOS. If I remember right, OSIT for me in my original MOS (19D Cavalry Scout) was like 13 weeks.

Soldiers who had a non-combat arms MOS (cooks, mechanics, commo etc.) they had a generic "Basic Training" that was something like 6- 8 weeks. They learned just basic soldiering skills like land nav, hand to hand combat, BRM (basic rifle marksmanship), first aid, etc. After their "Basic Training" was done they'd then go to what was called "AIT" (Advanced Individual Training) that was specific to their MOS. For example if a guy enlisted as a commo specialist, they'd do their 6-8 week basic at somewhere like Ft. McClellan or maybe Ft. Jackson and then transfer to the commo school at Ft. Gordon.
Posted by Mear
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Posted on 2/17/15 at 9:33 am to
So the marine tankers were just as fat as the Army ones?
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 2/17/15 at 9:35 am to
Unless you're a 14 year old girl talking to another 14 year old girl, talking about another dude being "fat" is about as gay as two dudes jacking each other off.
This post was edited on 2/17/15 at 9:36 am
Posted by Goldrush25
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Posted on 2/17/15 at 9:36 am to
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They are small with no muscle? They aren't typically 6"5 bodybuilders but most aren't small with "no muscle".


I think he means sinewy, thin but muscular as opposed to bulky.
Posted by The Sad Banana
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Posted on 2/17/15 at 9:36 am to
I read all that and got to "blouse" and I thought to myself..."That can not be what they call it."
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 2/17/15 at 9:37 am to
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I read all that and got to "blouse" and I thought to myself..."That can not be what they call it."


The BDU top was called the BDU "blouse". The military had all sorts of odd names for just about everything.
Posted by lsu480
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Posted on 2/17/15 at 9:38 am to
Thanks Webster!
Posted by Redbone
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Posted on 2/17/15 at 12:10 pm to
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They are all lazy millenials with no muscle, every single one


But frick with one and prepare for a asswhoopin by a skinny lazy Marine.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 2/17/15 at 12:37 pm to
I'm a Marine and I'm pretty goddamn useless outside of a combat zone.
Posted by nc14
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Posted on 2/17/15 at 1:18 pm to
More like physical hazing methods that resulted in serious injury and sometimes death. Yelling has never been an issue.
Posted by lsucoonass
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Posted on 2/17/15 at 1:51 pm to
I only seen one seal and he was pretty lean. Out of all the green berets I have seen I'd say 50% were jacked and gassed to the gills
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 2/17/15 at 3:03 pm to
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GeauxxxTigers23
Do you have an airborne school date yet?
Posted by 777Tiger
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Posted on 2/17/15 at 3:06 pm to
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I'm a Marine and I'm pretty goddamn useless
Posted by DoUrden
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Posted on 2/17/15 at 3:07 pm to
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That your a lot of the marines that are in combat MOS's are lean rather than huge and ripped.


When a seal team would come aboard they were not the muscle bound gorillas people think of.
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 2/17/15 at 3:16 pm to
Posted by No8Easy2
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Posted on 2/17/15 at 5:35 pm to
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That your a lot of the marines that are in combat MOS's are lean rather than huge and ripped.


truth, i went into Marine boot camp right around 175* 5-10"
never went over 155 in my 4 yrs active duty
my MOS was 2531 field radio operator and ended up on a recon unit
big and ripped doesn't work very well
shite now I'm 195 slow and lazy
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