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PSA: Sam's Club COVID vaccine developed from aborted fetuses

Posted on 3/11/21 at 6:04 am
Posted by tigerpawl
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Posted on 3/11/21 at 6:04 am
Just so you'll know. Sam's Club dispenses Johnson & Johnson vaccine. I asked the pharmacist directly yesterday. LINK

That is all.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 3/11/21 at 6:07 am to
I guess it would be better if they just threw the cells, which have already been removed from the mother and the pregnancy terminated, into the trash can instead.

People act like JNJ performs abortions so that they can procure fetal tissue. Which of course, is total and complete nonsense.
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 3/11/21 at 6:08 am to
We found out we are having our first child. I saw the heartbeat yesterday at 6 weeks.

If somebody tells me that’s not a baby now, I may slap them in the face. Even my maw maw.
Posted by tigerpawl
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Posted on 3/11/21 at 6:09 am to
quote:

I guess it would be better if they just threw the cells, which have already been removed from the mother and the pregnancy terminated, into the trash can instead.

Actually, it would have been better if the cells remained intact in the living organism it came from and the mother take the cells - along with the rest of the living organism - for a walk in the park.
Posted by BeerMoney
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Posted on 3/11/21 at 6:10 am to
The jeebus freaks gonna go picket it?
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 3/11/21 at 6:11 am to
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Actually, it would have been better if the cells remained intact in the living organism it came from and the mother take the cells - along with the rest of the living organism - for a walk in the park.




Ok. But it didn’t. And the vaccine developer had nothing to do with aborting it.

They can either take the material and use it for something beneficial, or it can be discarded.
This post was edited on 3/11/21 at 6:12 am
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
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Posted on 3/11/21 at 6:12 am to
I would rather women not kill their babies.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 3/11/21 at 6:12 am to
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I would rather women not kill their babies.


No arguments here. That has nothing whatsoever to do with what is done with the cells afterward.
Posted by tigersownall
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Posted on 3/11/21 at 6:14 am to
What murderer would downvote this!? Congrats.
Posted by CaptSpaulding
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 3/11/21 at 6:15 am to
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I would rather women not kill their babies.


Me too. And I would also rather nasty arse China stop licking bats and wash their damn hands once in a while. But here we are.
Posted by tigerpawl
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Posted on 3/11/21 at 6:15 am to
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And the vaccine developer had nothing to do with aborting it.
Does not the vaccine developer have the ability to say "No - I think we'll try something else"??

The ends do not justify the means. To kill one human life form to save another?
Posted by heatom2
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 3/11/21 at 6:17 am to
This is such a weird line in the sand to draw. They used fetal cells from a fetus aborted in 1985, 35 years ago, to develop this vaccine. They've used the same type of fetal cells to develop almost every other vaccine in recent history.

How many potential lives will be saved from one aborted fetus? And it's not like they held this woman down and forced her to do it, she was going to aborted the fetus anyway, might as well get some use out of it.

This is a political stance veiled as a moral one. The church has way more blood on its hands than this vaccine ever will.
This post was edited on 3/11/21 at 6:43 am
Posted by DLauw
SWLA
Member since Sep 2011
6086 posts
Posted on 3/11/21 at 6:18 am to
quote:

. And the vaccine developer had nothing to do with aborting it.
Except for the fact they buy it from clinics. There’s big money in the abortion/harvesting/selling game.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m in the party of do WTFE you want as long as it doesn’t affect me or mine and I don’t have to pay for it.
Posted by Ba Ba Boooey
Northshore
Member since May 2010
4705 posts
Posted on 3/11/21 at 6:18 am to
The individual pharmacies that are vaccinating have zero control of which vaccine the government sends them on a given week. I’ve yet to get any vaccine other than Moderna, while friends of mine have received both Moderna and Pfizer.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26384 posts
Posted on 3/11/21 at 6:19 am to
quote:

Does not the vaccine developer have the ability to say "No - I think we'll try something else"??

The ends do not justify the means. To kill one human life form to save another?


You are making the implication that the abortion is performed so that the cells can be given to a developer for research. That is total nonsense and completely false.

The mother aborts the baby. The clinic either discards the tissue, or the cells that can be beneficial to medical research can be preserved for such use.

The abortion happened either way, regardless of the vaccine company.

I guess the answer is that you’d rather it all just go into the dumpster?
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
18770 posts
Posted on 3/11/21 at 6:20 am to
If ten million doses of that vaccine are administered, there will not be one more or less abortion. But those vaccine doses may save the lives of some recipients or persons in the community. So if you are pro-life, you should encourage the vaccine to be used to save lives.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26384 posts
Posted on 3/11/21 at 6:21 am to
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Except for the fact they buy it from clinics. There’s big money in the abortion/harvesting/selling game.


Ok? That still isn’t why the abortions are being performed. The mother is aborting the baby either way.

Why not use what can be beneficial? We do the same thing with children and adults who die when possible
This post was edited on 3/11/21 at 6:21 am
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25878 posts
Posted on 3/11/21 at 6:21 am to
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The ends do not justify the means. To kill one human life form to save another?

It wasn’t killed to save another. It was killed, and then used by a separate entity to save another.

J&J had zero to do with the decision to abort. Their job is to make medicines and vaccines to save lives. They would be neglecting their job if they turned down material that would help them do that. The fetus was going to be dead whether they accepted it or not.
Posted by Rebel
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Posted on 3/11/21 at 6:23 am to
Posted by X123F45
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Posted on 3/11/21 at 6:23 am to
Oh shut up
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