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Professor defends cultural revolution
Posted on 1/28/20 at 10:11 am
Posted on 1/28/20 at 10:11 am
Came across this on Quora (link below)
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Godfree Roberts, Ed.D. Education & Geopolitics, University of Massachusetts, Amherst (1973)
Answered Oct 15, 2019 · Author has 693 answers and 7.6m answer views
Whenever anything happens in China (like the current Uyghur reeducation program) Western media immediately alleges “millions of….” reflexively.
They exaggerate, negatively, everything about China and they certainly did so when discussing the Cultural Revolution.
But Mao was explicit and repeatedly instructed everyone that it was to be non-violent and charged the PLA with keeping it so–which everyone agrees they did very well...
know of some suicides, some accidental deaths, at least one murder (the stabbing of a teacher by a woman who fled to the US) and some amateur gunfights between Red Guard factions but, if you’ve done much shooting you know that hitting human targets, even stationary ones, is difficult and certainly does not result in mass deaths.
I’ve never been able to justify a figure above 1,000. Certainly this scene, witnessed by Australian journalist Wilfred Burchett?[1] does not suggest violence..
There was no fighting between workers and, in fact, China’s economy soared during the Cultural Revolution and scientific advances continued as before.
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Posted on 1/28/20 at 10:16 am to prplhze2000
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Western media...
They exaggerate, negatively, everything about Trump
Fify, except FoxNews, which did this to all Democrats
Posted on 1/28/20 at 10:19 am to prplhze2000
Here's what the Party said.
So this pseudo intellectual is full of shite.
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In 1981, the Party declared that the Cultural Revolution was "responsible for the most severe setback and the heaviest losses suffered by the Party, the country, and the people since the founding of the People's Republic"
So this pseudo intellectual is full of shite.
Posted on 1/28/20 at 10:21 am to prplhze2000
For anyone who wants to read about the horrors of Maoist China (coming soon to a country near you!), go pick up these two books: Spider Eaters and Life & Death in Shanghai
To tide you over, here's a story about how brilliant the Chinese leadership was:
The government tasked the rural people/farmers with raising as many crops as they could. Well, some Einstein figured out that the sparrows were a threat to grain production and instructed Chinese citizens to kill all the sparrows they could. As you can probably guess, rural farmers in China were quite poor and didn't have the means necessary to kill the birds like you'd imagine. So they would take pots and pans and make a bunch of noise, effectively preventing the sparrows from landing anywhere near their farms. Imagine a bunch of Chinese people running around in the fields at all hours of the night scaring away these birds. Well, with no place to land the birds just kept flying and flying and flying until they dropped dead from exhaustion. Essentially, the Chinese farmers managed to wipe out an entire population of sparrows. Hooray! Hooray for Mao! Hooray for China! Hooray for the people! Hooray for the glorious revolution! Problem was...sparrows don't eat grain, they eat the bugs that feast on grain. With no sparrow population to control the insect population, the insects descended upon harvest of the Chinese farmers like Indian men to a white girl on Tinder. Bugs destroyed most of the crop, and as a result a ton of Chinese people died from starvation.
The end.
ETA: sparrows, not finches
To tide you over, here's a story about how brilliant the Chinese leadership was:
The government tasked the rural people/farmers with raising as many crops as they could. Well, some Einstein figured out that the sparrows were a threat to grain production and instructed Chinese citizens to kill all the sparrows they could. As you can probably guess, rural farmers in China were quite poor and didn't have the means necessary to kill the birds like you'd imagine. So they would take pots and pans and make a bunch of noise, effectively preventing the sparrows from landing anywhere near their farms. Imagine a bunch of Chinese people running around in the fields at all hours of the night scaring away these birds. Well, with no place to land the birds just kept flying and flying and flying until they dropped dead from exhaustion. Essentially, the Chinese farmers managed to wipe out an entire population of sparrows. Hooray! Hooray for Mao! Hooray for China! Hooray for the people! Hooray for the glorious revolution! Problem was...sparrows don't eat grain, they eat the bugs that feast on grain. With no sparrow population to control the insect population, the insects descended upon harvest of the Chinese farmers like Indian men to a white girl on Tinder. Bugs destroyed most of the crop, and as a result a ton of Chinese people died from starvation.
The end.
ETA: sparrows, not finches
This post was edited on 1/28/20 at 10:24 am
Posted on 1/28/20 at 10:24 am to prplhze2000
Pretty sure even the Chinese communist party admitted the CR was a disaster with "grave errors"
Posted on 1/28/20 at 10:24 am to prplhze2000
Read the Three Body Problem and learned about Struggle sessions. Some fricked up shite man.
Posted on 1/28/20 at 10:24 am to Boring
Central planning is usually a failure with disastrous consequences.
Posted on 1/28/20 at 10:25 am to prplhze2000
quote:
I’ve never been able to justify a figure above 1,000. Certainly this scene, witnessed by Australian journalist Wilfred Burchett?[1] does not suggest violence..
What? The chicoms killed more than Stalin and Hitler put together
Posted on 1/28/20 at 10:42 am to Boring
quote:"Kill The Sparrows" was part of the Four Pests Campaign:
The government tasked the rural people/farmers with raising as many crops as they could. Well, some Einstein figured out that the sparrows were a threat to grain production and instructed Chinese citizens to kill all the sparrows they could. As you can probably guess, rural farmers in China were quite poor and didn't have the means necessary to kill the birds like you'd imagine. So they would take pots and pans and make a bunch of noise, effectively preventing the sparrows from landing anywhere near their farms. Imagine a bunch of Chinese people running around in the fields at all hours of the night scaring away these birds. Well, with no place to land the birds just kept flying and flying and flying until they dropped dead from exhaustion. Essentially, the Chinese farmers managed to wipe out an entire population of sparrows. Hooray! Hooray for Mao! Hooray for China! Hooray for the people! Hooray for the glorious revolution! Problem was...sparrows don't eat grain, they eat the bugs that feast on grain. With no sparrow population to control the insect population, the insects descended upon harvest of the Chinese farmers like Indian men to a white girl on Tinder. Bugs destroyed most of the crop, and as a result a ton of Chinese people died from starvation.
quote:I've said it before, and I'll say it again: the most powerful force in the universe is the Law of Unintended Consquences.
At dawn one day last week, the slaughter of the sparrows in Peking began, continuing a campaign that has been going on in the countryside for months. The objection to the sparrows is that, like the rest of China's inhabitants, they are hungry. They are accused of pecking away at supplies in warehouses and in paddyfields at an officially estimated rate of four pounds of grain per sparrow per year. And so divisions of soldiers deployed through Peking streets, their footfalls muffled by rubber-soled sneakers. Students and civil servants in high-collared tunics, and schoolchildren carrying pots and pans, ladles and spoons, quietly took up their stations. The total force, according to Radio Peking, numbered 3,000,000.
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