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re: Private personal injury attorney vs. large firm

Posted on 4/6/16 at 2:26 pm to
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 4/6/16 at 2:26 pm to
Well, I can't say that

We're a hybrid. We're not a 2 man shop, and we're not a mill. Seems we've found somewhat of a happy medium between the two.
This post was edited on 4/6/16 at 2:28 pm
Posted by sealawyer
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Posted on 4/6/16 at 2:29 pm to


Fair enough.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 4/6/16 at 2:29 pm to
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The amount that goes to pay your doctor bills shouldn't be part of what the attorney gets. The attorney should get 30% of what he/she can negotiate AFTER medical bills.
Posted by MoonrakerElite
Member since Mar 2016
518 posts
Posted on 4/6/16 at 2:39 pm to
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The amount that goes to pay your doctor bills shouldn't be part of what the attorney gets. The attorney should get 30% of what he/she can negotiate AFTER medical bills. Would be tough to find an attorney to do this, but trust me, it's possible and only fair in my opinion.


This ignores a few important things attorneys do relative to the medical bills:

1) many times, doctors will not treat you without having the attorney sign a guarantee, regardless of your personal medical insurance, once they find out it's a personal injury.

2) they can negotiate your medical bills so you aren't paying full price;

3) they may have to pay some of your bills up front;

4) they deal with all of the third and fourth parties required to establish your loss--I.e. Getting your medical records, billing history, accounting for any types of insurance liens on your recovery, etc.--almost no health care providers keep any type of records in house. A trip to the ER means dealing with bills and records agencies for the doctors, nursing staff, the actual hospital, any x-rays or imaging, etc.

Personal Injury attorneys get a really bad rep, and in some instances it is completely warranted. But the idea perpetuated that they just make a few phone calls and then take half of the their client's money is inaccurate and underestimates what a pain in the arse it is to do this type of work.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 4/6/16 at 2:41 pm to
quote:

1) many times, doctors will not treat you without having the attorney sign a guarantee, regardless of your personal medical insurance, once they find out it's a personal injury.

Go to another doctor.

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2) they can negotiate your medical bills so you aren't paying full price;

Then the insurer only has to pay the negotiated price.

quote:

Personal Injury attorneys get a really bad rep, and in some instances it is completely warranted.
I've never seen a case where it was unwarranted.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/6/16 at 2:41 pm to
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I suspect y'all don't advertise?

they have a huge arse billboard on the main drag out here an hour away from their firm location
Posted by Neauxla
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 4/6/16 at 2:42 pm to
quote:

quote:
2) they can negotiate your medical bills so you aren't paying full price;
Then the insurer only has to pay the negotiated price.
only if negotiated prior to settlement/trial
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81947 posts
Posted on 4/6/16 at 2:42 pm to
Well, yeah
Posted by MoonrakerElite
Member since Mar 2016
518 posts
Posted on 4/6/16 at 2:45 pm to
quote:

Go to another doctor



Hard to do if you're in a small town or need to see a specialist.


quote:

Then the insurer only has to pay the negotiated price.



Only if the victim has insurance. And that's assuming their insurance covers all costs, which it very rarely does.

Must be easy to have such a simple minded view of how things work.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80548 posts
Posted on 4/6/16 at 2:50 pm to
quote:

Must be easy to have such a simple minded view of how things work.


He's an adjuster. He just sees things from that perspective.
This post was edited on 4/6/16 at 2:52 pm
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80548 posts
Posted on 4/6/16 at 2:52 pm to
That statement isn't totally accurate
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81947 posts
Posted on 4/6/16 at 2:53 pm to
quote:

Then the insurer only has to pay the negotiated price.


Only if the victim has insurance.
No, the third party insurer.

quote:

Must be easy to have such a simple minded view of how things work.




This is all I do, and no, I am not an adjuster.
Posted by MoonrakerElite
Member since Mar 2016
518 posts
Posted on 4/6/16 at 2:54 pm to
quote:

"lol: He's an adjuster. He just sees things from that perspective.



I'd like to see all of the lawyer bashers on here try and deal with on personal injury issue on their own and see how far it gets them.

I don't have anything against Morris Bart or the big turn and burn firms, but also understand why they give people a bad perception of attorneys in general.
Posted by sealawyer
Coonassganistan
Member since Nov 2012
3138 posts
Posted on 4/6/16 at 2:59 pm to
quote:

they have a huge arse billboard on the main drag out here an hour away from their firm location


Ok, now I am curious who he works for. It can't be more than one of about 10 firms with the information we know now!
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81947 posts
Posted on 4/6/16 at 3:02 pm to
quote:

I'd like to see all of the lawyer bashers on here try and deal with on personal injury issue on their own and see how far it gets them.

I settled a claim recently where the gal got USAA to pay $50K plus another $20K from my client. No lawyer.
Posted by MoonrakerElite
Member since Mar 2016
518 posts
Posted on 4/6/16 at 3:04 pm to
The the OP's actual question, without getting into the debates over the moral aspects of PI lawyers:

quote:

Can yall walk me through the pros/cons of this decision


Go with someone that is competent. Large versus small doesn't matter as much as someone you can trust to be competent and will keep you up to date on your case and get it resolved quickly.

If you're injured and have your own physician, keep seeing them. A firm that tries to steer you to a particular doctor or inflate your medicals should be a red flag.

Most of them will charge the same. About a third of the recovery, though sometimes it is more if suit is filed. Try and demand that the costs don't go up unless the case is actually litigated in court.
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28706 posts
Posted on 4/6/16 at 3:04 pm to
quote:

If insuror is unreasonable


And he will know this how?



Because they always are.

You absolutely need a lawyer if you were injured or suffered a property loss.
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28706 posts
Posted on 4/6/16 at 3:05 pm to
quote:

I settled a claim recently where the gal got USAA to pay $50K plus another $20K from my client. No lawyer.


I don't understand your response.

Are you a judge, a lawyer, or a claims rep?
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81947 posts
Posted on 4/6/16 at 3:06 pm to
quote:

You absolutely need a lawyer if you were injured or suffered a property loss.


Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28706 posts
Posted on 4/6/16 at 3:19 pm to
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You absolutely need a lawyer if you were injured or suffered a property loss.


To clarify, I am referring to things like diminished value.

Insurance companies are like crime, they don't pay.

You best have someone arguing your side, if the loss is of any significance.

Obviously, a fender bender or minor accident would probably not require the services of lawyer, but anything of significance probably would.
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