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re: Prices Fall to a Six-Year Low for U.S. Oil

Posted on 3/17/15 at 9:31 am to
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
65241 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 9:31 am to
Healthcare people just jealous of those with no degree and no student loans making as much or more than them.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 9:32 am to
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The low prices are from a shift in world supply. They sell less to the US, they have less money. Less money is less power.



The low prices are low because of the increase in production and soft demands. Those things will reverse.

Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
98768 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 9:33 am to
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NOLA really isn't that heavily invested in oil.


Big oil pretty much pulled out of New Orleans in the 80s, Chevron is still across the lake in Covington though.


ETA: rumors running through company that Covington office and Lafayette office will be shut down next year
This post was edited on 3/17/15 at 9:34 am
Posted by LSU0596
Arkansas
Member since Jun 2009
339 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 9:33 am to
Current oil prices can be good for the overall economy, but if they get in the 20's or below the economies of LA, TX and all other major oil producing states will suffer just like they did in the 80's. In the early 80's people were packing up and walking away from their homes in the Houston area. It was very bad for everyone. Baton Rouge, Shreveport and New Orleans saw massive downturns. Shreveport was the worst of the three. New Orleans had tourism and conventions and BR had LSU and State seat.
At this time I don't see things deteriorating to that extent but no one should feel immune. The whole infrastructure of the State suffered greatly until the mid 90's from the crash of the 80's.
Posted by TexasTiger34
Austin, Kind of
Member since Mar 2008
11344 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 9:34 am to
didn't read the thread but i'll go ahead and say i'm buying a good bit of vgenx, vde & dbo right now

Posted by GaryMyMan
Shreveport
Member since May 2007
13499 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 9:34 am to
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Houston is diversified, but it's got a good bit of oil.


"A good bit of oil." These are Houston's Fortune 500 companies.

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As of 2013, 24 Fortune 500[2] companies are headquartered in Houston. In addition, Anadarko Petroleum OIL is headquartered in The Woodlands.

4 Phillips 66 OIL
45 ConocoPhillips OIL
64 Enterprise Products Partners
65 Sysco
77 Plains All American Pipeline OIL
106 Halliburton OIL
135 Baker Hughes OIL
144 National Oilwell Varco OIL
167 Apache OIL
174 Marathon Oil OIL
200 Waste Management
233 EOG Resources OIL
265 Kinder Morgan OIL
310 Cameron International OIL, kinda
334 KBR OIL
343 Group 1 Automotive
344 CenterPoint Energy
381 Enbridge Energy Partners OIL
397 Quanta Services
417 FMC Technologies OIL
435 Targa Resources OIL
451 MRC Global OIL
459 Calpine
475 Spectra Energy OIL
Not known Buckeye Partners OIL
Not known Noble Energy OIL


That's just Fortune 500. Tip of the iceberg.
This post was edited on 3/17/15 at 9:41 am
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 9:37 am to
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I'm looking at cutting cable because I don't really watch TV, tried to read the thread on the nerd board but it's over my head


I have a "smart TV" and the internet. I can watch all the shows I need through streaming (besides sports). It's been almost 4 months and it isn't even noticeable that I don't have cable. It will suck during college football season, but I may just nut up and pay for cable for a few months.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 9:38 am to
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With experts predicting that gas prices will continue to rise into the spring because of reduced production at U.S. refineries, and assuming gas prices affect how Americans look at the economy, it could be difficult for economic confidence to recover its recent momentum without significantly positive economic news elsewhere.


LINK
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 9:39 am to
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(besides sports).
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but I may just nut up and pay for cable for a few months.



SlingTV (you can't pause the TV though and only get one receiver)

$25 and all the sports channels streamed through $40 Amazon Fire Stick (which I have and friggin love). No contract either.

I am very close to pulling the trigger on it. That $25 also has CNN, etc.
This post was edited on 3/17/15 at 9:40 am
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63043 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 9:39 am to
It will impact the midstream companies like Enbridge Enterprise and Kinder Morgan differently though than the upstream E&Ps or service companies
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 9:39 am to
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Also Houston's economy is very diversified. Oil is just what the rubes see.


If oil stays this low for an extended period Houston is going to get hurt badly...to think otherwise and buy into the diversification is to be a real rube. The housing and commercial real estate markets will get crushed. Houston along with the state of Texas will suffer massive revenue losses. Do you not find it notable that the Houston boom coincides exactly with the rise of oil & gas prices in the early 2000s?
Posted by Austin Cajun
Austin, Tejas
Member since Aug 2013
1884 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 9:40 am to
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You say that but if you live in LA or TX and this gets extended longer than a year you are going to feel it no matter what you do for a living.


I can say with 100% certainty that the price of oil has no bearing on whether or not Xray machines break in my region.
Posted by panterica
Member since Jun 2012
1274 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 9:40 am to
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The low prices are low because of the increase in production and soft demands.


That's true, but the production increase was partially a subtle political "f you guys" between us and the middle eastern countries.

I'm just saying it's not as scary as it sounds. I'm in the oil game here in LA and things aren't slowing down at all for the next couple years at least. I'm including plastics and other downstream type processes. People will be okay here.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 9:41 am to
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but the production increase was partially a subtle political "f you guys" between us and the middle eastern countries.



no it wasnt...you're an idiot
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 9:42 am to
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Healthcare people just jealous of those with no degree and no student loans making as much or more than them.



I am in healthcare but have no student loan debt.

My degree and industry will give me job security OandG people won't ever have.

People are always going to get sick and die (Baby Boomers about to be Dead Boomers ), but energy is always going to be a changing landscape.


ETA:

But I definitely don't make the money that my OandG friends do at the age of 27.
This post was edited on 3/17/15 at 9:44 am
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 9:43 am to
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That's true, but the production increase was partially a subtle political "f you guys" between us and the middle eastern countries.


No it wasn't...American oil companies are independent, private profit driven businesses...they're not political instruments of our government.

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I'm including plastics and other downstream type processes. People will be okay here.



People in the refineries, but not people in the E&P side, the service companies which are a much larger sector.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63043 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 9:45 am to
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Do you not find it notable that the Houston boom coincides exactly with the rise of oil & gas prices in the early 2000s?


I am on the younger side but I don't remember the economy here being horrible in the late 90s when oil was $20-30. It will certainly curb the building but Houston isn't going to become Detroit
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
58894 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 9:45 am to
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I can say with 100% certainty that the price of oil has no bearing on whether or not Xray machines break in my region.


so what are you going to grease those bearings with???
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
65241 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 9:45 am to
From my personal experience what I said is true. Overall healthcare workers think they know everything.

Doesn't mean we still don't need em and that I do appreciate the service they provide.
Posted by Tigerstudent08
Lakeview
Member since Apr 2007
5776 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 9:47 am to
Heard a rumor yesterday that all Shell employees, full time and contract, were getting a 15% pay cut. Anyone else hear this? Hard for me to believe.
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