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re: Prediction: within 10 years the shortage of teachers will be a crisis

Posted on 5/11/14 at 5:07 pm to
Posted by Stringer Bell
The Towers
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 5/11/14 at 5:07 pm to
Results say otherwise.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
39632 posts
Posted on 5/11/14 at 5:09 pm to
Teachers work, at most, 8 months out of the year.
There's no doubt many choose the profession for the extended breaks and vacations.

NB4butIgradepapers!
Posted by tiderider
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/11/14 at 5:10 pm to
quote:

VetteGuy
Prediction: within 10 years the shortage of teachers will be a crisis
Teachers work, at most, 8 months out of the year.
There's no doubt many choose the profession for the extended breaks and vacations.

NB4butIgradepapers!



you are stupid ...
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
98945 posts
Posted on 5/11/14 at 5:11 pm to
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If you live in a nice area your kids will get a good education, if you don't you are a huge loser!

Public schools are for poor people
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
39632 posts
Posted on 5/11/14 at 5:13 pm to
Well, you sure told me!


Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
108007 posts
Posted on 5/11/14 at 5:15 pm to
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I think the only way to eventually fix the system is a mass exodus of teachers from the public school system. Then and only then can the system be overhauled and some common sense be applied.


It'll take more than that because in those persistently low performing schools is some of the same families who are just using them as babysitters until they're at an age to drop out.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
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Posted on 5/11/14 at 5:19 pm to
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Sure, but this is the Internet and I'm not running for political office so that's my opinion. There simply needs to be more male role models in these kids lives. They're not getting it at home. I'd pay a male teacher with zero formal education training more than I would pay a female with a master's degree in education.


IMO it's less about the gender and more about someone who isn't going to put up with their shite. Some of the best teachers in the school I currently work in are females. Not because they're female, but because they set a standard from day one that they're not going to put up with being walked all over.
Posted by The Dudes Rug
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 5/11/14 at 5:20 pm to
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Public schools are for poor people

Posted by eScott
Member since Oct 2008
11376 posts
Posted on 5/11/14 at 5:24 pm to
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Agree 100%. Who cares if we track them into vocational and trade schools? Not every child will be the american dream of a doctor, lawyer, or plant operator. We will need people to work on cars, do plumbing, lay concrete, etc.


The american dream (to me anyways) is having the opportunity to succeed in whatever occupation you enjoy doing. Being a doctor or going to college and getting a degree for the line of work you're in doesn't make you successful. I've seen too many people end up being teachers because that's the only job they could get with their degree. You should be a teacher because you want to be a teacher. And just like most occupations, good one should be able to advance to positions where they can make improvements and have a bigger impact on the system. Uninvolved parents are something a good teacher can overcome.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 5/11/14 at 5:27 pm to
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IMO it's less about the gender and more about someone who isn't going to put up with their shi
Don't kid yourself sweetheart. It's about gender.
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Some of the best teachers in the school I currently work in are females. Not because they're female, but because they set a standard from day one that they're not going to put up with being walked all over.
Well, probably about 90% of the teachers at your school are female so it stands to reason that at least some of them would be in the upper tier.
Posted by chrisksaint
Florida
Member since Jul 2011
1712 posts
Posted on 5/11/14 at 5:37 pm to
Not sure on the situation in Louisiana, but in FL I would definitely say politics is killing education imo.

In the process of getting my elementary ed degree(internship in the fall). Everything is being taught to standardizes testing which is mainly reading/math besides a few years. For instance in 5th grade here they test for science, well my mentor teacher and I had to not only teach them 5th grade science but 3rd and 4th as well since those teachers never did it to make time for reading.

Kids are lucky if they even get any social studies here before they reach middle school. Physical education is being reduced year by year despite the fatness of america.
Posted by 337Tiger19
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Feb 2014
2482 posts
Posted on 5/11/14 at 5:37 pm to
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Quality of parenting is a bigger crisis.


This x100.
It's not that teachers can't teach. They can't discipline kids anymore and that job is now left solely to the parents, and in low-performing schools, it's usually bad parenting that leads to lower scores.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 5/11/14 at 5:44 pm to
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Don't kid yourself sweetheart. It's about gender.


I'm not kidding myself, sweetheart. Just telling you like it is in the PLA school I've worked in for about 8 years.

quote:

Well, probably about 90% of the teachers at your school are female so it stands to reason that at least some of them would be in the upper tier.


Also not so much. It's probably closer to 60/40 these days in favor of females.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 5/11/14 at 5:48 pm to
On average, which gender commands more respect in the classroom? Don't include outliers
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/11/14 at 5:57 pm to
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Results say otherwise.


Link me up, big guy. Before Omar gets there yo.
Posted by avondale88
Montgomery
Member since May 2009
2634 posts
Posted on 5/11/14 at 7:05 pm to
I might get blasted for this, but I don't care. I'm 63 and I feel that the decline in public education started when the schools were integrated. The only thing that integration achieved was bringing down one race to the level of the other race that integration was supposed to uplift. You have teachers in public schools teaching English when they can't even speak correct English. I taught at a majority black school for a couple of years before I realized that I was getting nowhere in the profession. I never had discipline problems and got along great with the kids, but seeing teachers not doing their jobs really pissed me off. We had one teacher who let the kids in her class dance all of the time. We had another one who was a drunk and on records day he was passed out at the back of the school. I could really go on about the crap that I saw, but I think that ya'll know what I'm talking about. The incompetent teachers were never fired or disciplined in any way. I feel sorry for the teachers in public schools today. You're not allowed to fail the kids because the parish doesn't want any of their schools look bad. Public education is nothing but a horse and pony show. How many of you would like being called a MF to your face and there's not a damn thing that you can do about it?
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 5/11/14 at 7:06 pm to
Posted by SteveLSU35
Shreveport
Member since Mar 2004
15075 posts
Posted on 5/11/14 at 7:15 pm to
I teach at a great school. I'll stay there as long as I can, and it would take stupid crazy money to get me to go deal with pieces of shite every day......actually I wouldn't do that.

As I typed it I realized that teaching shitty kids would get me out of the profession all together. One good years salary isn't like amount I'd get in 20 more years.
Posted by fouldeliverer
Lannisport
Member since Nov 2008
13538 posts
Posted on 5/11/14 at 7:18 pm to
I am yelled at or cursed at by students on fairly regular basis. This is happening more and more frequently because of Taylor's policies. Quite simply, schools are "juking the stats" by not punishing students. Due to the lack of repercussions the students are becoming more unruly. Though I disagree with much of Avalon's post, despite the holidays and summer breaks, it is very difficult to be loudly cursed and unable to do much about it. This year was by far the toughest, but I find bright spots and do enjoy teaching. There are a few students each year I know that I've impacted in a positive life-changing way. Even if it is only a handful, I take joy that I have students who contact me years later to seek my advice or to thank me.
This post was edited on 5/11/14 at 7:20 pm
Posted by BigSquirrel
Member since Jul 2013
1880 posts
Posted on 5/11/14 at 7:20 pm to
A family member of mine received her parish's teacher of the year award last year. She quit four days ago, and I don't blame her. Says she's going to look into daycare work. Wife left that same parish two years ago.
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