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re: Pre-Dawn Raid Results in Mobile Police Shooting Armed 16 year old
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:52 am to Townedrunkard
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:52 am to Townedrunkard
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normal citizen that knows he isn’t breaking the law, isn’t worried about cops coming at 4 am to bust his door down. They know it’s an intruder.
So you rip off a few rounds down the hallway as you should cause it's an intruder, but it's the cops at the wrong address. Worse case for them is you survive and dispute their by the book story and get the apology and nothing because qualified immunity.
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Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:53 am to holmesbr
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I don't agree with these no knock warrants. If I was a cop I would really think twice about serving them. I don't fault the resident, good guy or bad guy, for popping some rounds at the "intruders". You wake up to a door crashing and yelling? I want every protection from that scenario I can get in case my house is the wrong house.
Anyone with the correct mindset and qualifications to be a cop would not do it. They would tell their boss to kiss their arse. The fact that most are willing to do the most insane shite imaginable, kick in the door of someone they suspect is a criminal, is all the proof needed that most are not mentally stable enough to be a cop.
I had a boss once tell me to work on a lighting circuit while it was energized. I told him if he wanted it worked on hot he could do it himself. I did this because I was not a fricking idiot. Cops should, if nothing else, have their own best interests at heart.
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:53 am to jmarto1
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Maybe not but I'm not pulling a weapon on an officer for that charge either
Would you pull a gun on someone kicking down your door at 3am?
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:53 am to lake2280
quote:part of the tactic of these raids is to overwhelm the target with confusion. Also nine out of ten times if it's a drug house the occupants aren't sober. It's just asking for issues all around.
side room guy in the room was starting to lift a rifle. Two quick shots and it was over. Was not the guy we were after as he wasn’t there. Always wonder if he was going to fire but I wasn’t willing to find out. Every other time we did a raid they either ran or put their hands up. It’s an intense situation lotta commotion and I honestly feel situation reversed I’m going for my gun as well.
Then some $35k a year street cop has to hang his hat on, "it was a clean shot" for the rest of his life after killing a teenager
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:54 am to kywildcatfanone
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No issue here for normal thinking people
Was this a kid knowingly getting into a firefight with police? Or a kid shooting people breaking into his house?
There's a marked difference for normal people.
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:55 am to RATeamWannabe
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i mean, regardless of how you feel about the drug trade, pointing a gun at police officers isn't a smart move
Pointing a gun at a policeman is as fricking stupid as kicking in someone's door in the wee hours of the morning...the end result is likely to be the same.
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:55 am to oogabooga68
I’ll gladly be called a Karen for standing up against the ever expanding police state.
Meanwhile you just smile as more and more individual freedoms are stripped away for the sake of safety. You probably get your jollies off to the patriot act.
Meanwhile you just smile as more and more individual freedoms are stripped away for the sake of safety. You probably get your jollies off to the patriot act.
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:56 am to Boss13
Not at 16
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:56 am to tilco
At least they were at the right address.
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:56 am to Bayou_Tiger_225
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A 16 year old got killed over what is legal in a quarter of the country and you think everything is all fine and dandy.
Ummm, not in Alabama. Not even medical weed is legal here.
This post was edited on 11/14/23 at 8:58 am
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:57 am to oogabooga68
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Now he won't be able to finish High School and pursue a College degree....
I love how these guys claim the other party is the racist one.
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:58 am to oogabooga68
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So the cops should've let this thug kill them?
Welp, we know who won't be shooting anyone breaking into his house. Do you leave your door open at night too?
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:58 am to ArHog
I get the argument on the raid but the problem goes further back if a 16 year old is sleeping with a pistol
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:59 am to ArHog
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A 16 year old got killed over what is legal in a quarter of the country and you think everything is all fine and dandy.
Ummm, not in Alabama. Not even medical weed is legal here.
So its okay to kill a kid over it? Because its illegal? 70% of conservatives could have been justifiably murdered by police then. My parents are as conservative as they come but they smoked pot in high school.
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:59 am to RoscoeSanCarlos
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Maybe you should make a career change, go into law enforcement, and you can show them how it should be done.
Aside from the fact that the other posters already said how this could have easily been done better, the price of living in a free society is that policing is more difficult than it “needs” to be strictly speaking. If they can’t handle it, they should find another job.
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:59 am to Boss13
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I guess this is technically a different debate. I would agree that more resources may be needed, but I would be willing to pay additional taxes if it were to expand law enforcement as civil servants and reduce their role as arms of the state.
Spoken like a true liberal. Didn’t Minny get what they wished for?
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/11/05/politics/defund-the-police-democrats/index.html
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:59 am to AwgustaDawg
quote:what do you think all the 'back the blue' 'punisher flag' 'thin blue line' propaganda is for? It ropes in a certain mouthbreathing demographic that they can pump with this 'us v them' mindsets and sent them out to do these types of raids
Anyone with the correct mindset and qualifications to be a cop would not do it. They would tell their boss to kiss their arse. The fact that most are willing to do the most insane shite imaginable, kick in the door of someone they suspect is a criminal, is all the proof needed that most are not mentally stable enough to be a cop.
Posted on 11/14/23 at 9:00 am to EarlyCuyler3
Being honest doesn’t make you a racist.
Posted on 11/14/23 at 9:02 am to Townedrunkard
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Spoken like a true liberal. Didn’t Minny get what they wished for?
Posted on 11/14/23 at 9:02 am to Bayou_Tiger_225
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You probably get your jollies off to the patriot act.
Calm down, Karen....
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