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re: Pre-Dawn Raid Results in Mobile Police Shooting Armed 16 year old
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:22 am to Townedrunkard
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:22 am to Townedrunkard
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Townedrunkard
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Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:25 am to SuperSaint
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like when Mar a Lago was raided in the morning
Enlighten me, did they kick his door down? Now Hunter should definitely be worried. He’s already turned the White House into a stash house.
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:26 am to tilco
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This one could be a mess.
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Police say the 16 year old pointed a laser sighted pistol at police and at least one officer opened fire.
Uh
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:29 am to EarlyCuyler3
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Plenty of issues for the more intelligent though.
So the cops should've let this thug kill them?
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:29 am to tilco
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That’s my thought. I’m sure the usual “he fricked around and found out” crowd will flood this thread. But what led to them making a decision like this? Shouldn’t they have had better intelligence as to who was in the house?
If the kid pointed a gun at police then it was a good shoot. But was all that force really worth it for some weed?
The lack of critical thinking in these posts is absurd.
The police were not looking for a couple dime bags.
You use Swat when there is a chance that the occupants are armed and dangerous, because if you send 1-2 uniforms in a cruiser (a) the subject will flee; (b) they are known to be armed and might shoot back.
Guess what? They did exactly that. A gun was aimed at police.
Now flip this around. Imagine what would've happened if a couple uniforms showed up. You'd probably have a dead cop.
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:30 am to SUB
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The police have so many resources
They do???
I guess this is technically a different debate. I would agree that more resources may be needed, but I would be willing to pay additional taxes if it were to expand law enforcement as civil servants and reduce their role as arms of the state.
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:31 am to Boss13
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What a stupid comment. By your logic, no one should be defending themselves in the early morning because it might be cops breaking down their door. Everyone in the south would grab their gun first after having their door broken down, none of them are "asking for it."
In 1982 I had an apartment on the west side of Atlanta in Cobb County, Georgia. I woke up one Sunday morning and heard voices downstairs...I knew my room mate was in his room because I could hear him snoring. I grabbed my pistol and was heading down the stairs when a fricking cop sticks his head into the stair well and asks if Kenneth is there. I told him there wasn't a fricking Kenneth in the house that belonged there and asked them what the frick they were doing...they responded they were looking for Kenneth. I told them they were lucky I hadn't started shooting first instead of waiting on them to identify themselves. I was shaking like a fricking leaf...had no idea what to do with the gun. In my own fricking house. They had, of course, the wrong address. They also tackled me and handcuffed me and bum rushed my room mate and did the same to him....and we were both lucky they decided to not pursue the matter because neither of us had the money to hire an attorner and they would have railroaded the shite out of both of us with a public defender. As it was they chastised me for having a perfectly legal handgun in my home and for having it on me. They kept us both handcuffed for about 2 hours and eventually about 20 cops were ransacking the apartment. They had broken a window out of the door and unlocked it and entered. We were both fortunate to survice, if there had not been a 180 degree in that stair well and they had seen me with a pistol before I was able to tell them I had one I have very little doubt one of both of those unarrested criminals would have hesitated to shoot me.
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:31 am to oogabooga68
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oogabooga68
Not many bigger bootlickers than this one.
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:31 am to tilco
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Armed 16 year old
FAFO
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:32 am to tadman
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The police were not looking for a couple dime bags.
If thats all they found, and it is according to the article, why was this warranted?
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:32 am to oogabooga68
quote:Why are you assuming the 16 year old kid was a thug?
So the cops should've let this thug kill them?
That kid wasn’t the dealer. That kid wasn’t the subject of the early morning raid. He was a minor who was killed over weed, and at this point just enough weed to only warrant a simple possession charge.
That’s pretty fricked up.
This post was edited on 11/14/23 at 8:33 am
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:33 am to Bayou_Tiger_225
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Why are you assuming the 16 year old kid was a thug?
Mobile
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:34 am to oogabooga68
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So the cops should've let this thug kill them?
Cops to unknown resident: "Why are you in your house!"
Cops to unknown resident:*Shoots resident*
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:34 am to Boss13
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If thats all they found, and it is according to the article, why was this warranted?
What good is all that surplus military equipment if you don't get to use it?
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:35 am to Boss13
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So if the cops are incompetent its okay to fight back? How was the 16 year old suppose to know if the intruders were good cops or bad? Or if they were cops at all? If you don't know who is breaking into your house, are you not allowed to defend yourself?
Did I say that? No. Do cops frick shite up, I’m sure all the time. Just like doctors frick up and cost people their lives all the time. Airline pilots have screwed up and cost people their lives. You just giving needless examples of this can happen or that.
This post was edited on 11/14/23 at 8:40 am
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:35 am to tadman
quote:right because that outcome is so much worse than a dead kid.
Now flip this around. Imagine what would've happened if a couple uniforms showed up. You'd probably have a dead cop.
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:37 am to Townedrunkard
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Did I say that? No. Do cops frick shite up, I’m sure all the time. Just like doctors frick up and cost people their lives all the time. Airline pilots have screwed up and cost people their lives. You just giving needless examples of this can happen or that.
No, you're saying that Americans have no right to self defense in their home because the people breaking in might be cops.
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:38 am to Townedrunkard
A 16 year old got killed over what is legal in a quarter of the country and you think everything is all fine and dandy.
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:39 am to RoscoeSanCarlos
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Maybe you should make a career change, go into law enforcement, and you can show them how it should be done.
The data is abundantly clear - these types of raids are EXTREMELY dangerous for cops. The only thing they do regularly which is more dangerous is drive like fricking lunatics because someone has a tail-light out. ANY other industry that had this readily available data that could clearly use less risky processes to get a job done who chose not to do so would eventually be fined or litigated out of business.
Imagine if you worked in a plant and an unguarded machine regularly lopped the heads of co- workers off. When the boss came along and told you it was your turn to stick you head in the machine only a fricking moron would do it. This is EXACTLY what cops do though...and the do it willingly and will bitch and whine like mashed kitties if someone suggests their bosses ought not ask them to stick their heads in the machine. That is the height of stupidity. Any cop who does this and gets hurt in the process ought to, along with their boss who allowed it, be fired and forced to pay for the litigation that will ensue. It is the height of stupidity yet they continue to do it and people who supposedly support them support their decision to stick their heads in the machine.
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:40 am to AwgustaDawg
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We can't have that. We like the idea of the state having this kind of authority over us....the more conservative a person is the more they love the idea of the state having this kind of power and authority with little or no accountability.
You've uttered some dumb shite on this board before, but this may take the cake.
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