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re: Pre-Dawn Raid Results in Mobile Police Shooting Armed 16 year old

Posted on 11/14/23 at 10:18 am to
Posted by Boss13
Mobile
Member since Oct 2016
1835 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 10:18 am to
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How fricking dense are you? They killed an armed person pointing a loaded weapon at them.


... when they were breaking into his house at 3am, looking for someone other than him...

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In your "get rid of cops" world, do you believe that if someone is pointing a weapon at a cop, that the cop must wait until he has a warrant against THAT person to defend himself? Really?


Ad Hominem attack, I have never once in my life been for "getting rid of cops" only that they should be held responsible for dangerous policies that go against the constitution.

quote:

Dude get some better stuff. That cheap shite you are smoking is rotting your brain.


Ad Hominem, I've never smoked in my life. It can get you shot by cops apparently.
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
19837 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 10:18 am to
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But somehow you think in the middle of the night with several kids in the house is the best option?


THESE responses are exactly why we can't have a productive conversation. NOWHERE in my question did I say I thought the raid was a good idea. In fact, I think it was a terrible idea. I was just wondering what options others saw.

But the whole policing in America thing has devolved so badly that there are now just two sides:

A. Cops are heroes. Don't ask questions.

B. You are a fricking BOOTLICKER!!!! for ever supporting anything the police do.

Please go back to my post and show me where I said it was a good idea. And there were four responses to my post all accusing me of thinking the raid was the way to go. You weren't the only one.

Can we have a fricking conversation on this conversation board or do we all just need to be chimpanzees flinging poo?
Posted by Elblancodiablo
Member since Sep 2023
1829 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 10:19 am to
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Does that really matter? Sounds like a justification attempt to me.


Yep, it matters. If he is walking crime wave, better to be shed of him early so he has fewer chances to cause harm.
Posted by tharre4
Member since Jan 2015
617 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 10:20 am to
the Police in this case.
Posted by Boss13
Mobile
Member since Oct 2016
1835 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 10:20 am to
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Until it’s your neighbor.
Now, people won’t be dealing at that house anymore.


Never once considered having cops kill my neighbors.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
106179 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 10:20 am to
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Can we have a fricking conversation on this conversation board or do we all just need to be chimpanzees flinging poo?


You asked a question and multiple people answered with alternatives that could've been utilized instead of this raid.

Is there a reason you're not responding to any of those? You asked the question?
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24679 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 10:20 am to
Y'all are just arguing in circles now.
Posted by Elblancodiablo
Member since Sep 2023
1829 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 10:21 am to
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Are only people you consider to be "productive members of society" privy to due process

If he has a mile long juvi record, I don't give a frick about his due process.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
19000 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 10:21 am to
16 years old isn't young at all for gang bangers. That is prime animalistic violence age these days.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
106179 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 10:21 am to
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If he has a mile long juvi record, I don't give a frick about his due process.


And again, there it is.

Loving some Constitution and Bill of Rights, but only when it applies to themselves.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 10:23 am to
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Yep, it matters. If he is walking crime wave, better to be shed of him early so he has fewer chances to cause harm.


No, it doesn't.

Bet you really enjoyed Minority Report.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296576 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 10:24 am to
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Never once considered having cops kill my neighbors.

What kind of neighborhood do you live?
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
12475 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 10:24 am to
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oogabooga68

Posted by Elblancodiablo
Member since Sep 2023
1829 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 10:25 am to
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This post reeks of freedom and small govt.


It is more of a quality of life issue.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 10:25 am to
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oogabooga68


Guy would make the brownshirts blush.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
148277 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 10:26 am to
HEY GUESS WHAT?! EVERYONE IN THIS THREAD ALL AGREES ITS NOT A GOOD IDEA TO POINT A FIREARM AT A UNIFORMED OFFICER!!
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 10:27 am to
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HEY GUESS WHAT?! EVERYONE IN THIS THREAD ALL AGREES ITS NOT A GOOD IDEA TO POINT A FIREARM AT A UNIFORMED OFFICER!!


They simply can't see beyond this point.

Except for the one guy who's at least honest about being an a-hole who's glad a 16 year old died.
Posted by Elblancodiablo
Member since Sep 2023
1829 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 10:27 am to
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how about you just tell us the number that was taken off the streets to make it a wash on the 16yo's life?

Depends on the 16yr old. Some you move mountains to protect, some aren't worth the powder it would take to blow their head off.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
148277 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 10:28 am to
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It is more of a quality of life issue.
if your quality of life sucks that's probably a you thing baw
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296576 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 10:28 am to
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Depends on the 16yr old.


Dont address the bleeding hearts. the kid pulled a gun on cops. Justified.
The issue is cops shouldnt be doing predawn raids on residential homes.
This post was edited on 11/14/23 at 10:29 am
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