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re: Prayers Needed from the OT Community *Update Page 28*

Posted on 3/20/19 at 4:01 pm to
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
18019 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 4:01 pm to
I said my first prayer in I can't remember how long thinking about you and your family last night going to bed. I hope you have a good support network at home and are able to eventually find peace and comfort
Posted by ulsaint
Member since Oct 2007
2460 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 4:01 pm to
This is literally the most gut-wrenching thread I've ever read on here or any message board. Maybe it's just the timing as my daughter is 4 months, but I haven't stopped thinking about this since I first saw it.

Prayers are with you and your family.
Posted by Polycarp
Texas
Member since Feb 2009
5670 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 4:29 pm to
Oh, Lord Jesus, that's horrible. I am late here, but I am sending prayers to you and your family. Extremely sorry for your loss. Just devastating.
Posted by OKellsBells
USA
Member since Dec 2016
5264 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 4:31 pm to
Jesus. I hope you get answers from the hospital soon. Seems like the ER doc wants to understand if there was an error.

The first questions I’d get answers for are what was the initial volume of that bag of dextrose/saline (1000ml, 500ml, etc), the time between when it was hung and when it emptied, what infusion rate was programmed into the pump, and if there was also potassium (K) in it.
Posted by NoHoTiger
So many to kill, so little time
Member since Nov 2006
45993 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 4:32 pm to
I am so sorry for this. You and your wife are in my thoughts and prayers.
Posted by Jobu93
Cypress TX
Member since Sep 2011
20321 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 4:37 pm to
My heart is broken for you and your family. I am so sorry this has befallen you. I wish I could say and do so much more for you.


Has there been any mention of a bacterial infection?
Posted by LSUwag
Florida man
Member since Jan 2007
17711 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 4:45 pm to
I am so sorry for your loss. God bless your child and your family.

Posted by WoWyHi
Member since Jul 2009
23339 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 4:54 pm to
quote:

do also know now that the ER doctor is the one who triggered the investigation into his death.


Triggered as in something odd in his past or triggered as in he initiated the investigation?

quote:

They kept having problems getting his IV to flow so they had placed a pressure sleeve on the outside of the IV bag and we're applying pressure to it.


Don't pressure sleeves increase the blood flow to the heart, even when used as an IV assist? Could something like this put pressure on his heart?

This post was edited on 3/20/19 at 4:57 pm
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
39831 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 5:16 pm to
quote:

The first questions I’d get answers for are what was the initial volume of that bag of dextrose/saline (1000ml, 500ml, etc), the time between when it was hung and when it emptied, what infusion rate was programmed into the pump, and if there was also potassium (K) in it.



Not sure of the size of the first IV bag but my wife told me when they brought in the second IV bag they told her that they didn't have any bags for small children and the nurse poured part of the contents into the sink before connecting the bag. Below is what is written in the IV STARTS section.

Start Time: 13:00 NS 0.9% IV 200 ml/hr Stop Time 13:30 Amount Infused 200/0.

Start Time: 15:00 D5 1/2 NS IV 50 ml/hr Stop Time: 15:30

That's all they have written for the IV section but when he coded at 16:51 the IV and bag was still connected. They were not using a programmed pump to deliver the fluids.

ETA I can't find anything on other medications they administered but I saw with my own eyes the nurse push something down the IV line with a plunger.
This post was edited on 3/20/19 at 5:30 pm
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
39831 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 5:21 pm to
quote:

Triggered as in something odd in his past or triggered as in he initiated the investigation?



She wrote the below in her report.

"Frankly, I am confused about the series of events leading to his death". "I anticipate this case will go to the medical examiner."

Then later she wrote and highlighted "making police report to HPD at this time. Waiting for investigator. (Significant).

So that would have been just a short time after he passed because the investigator contacted me that same evening (twice).

Not sure if any of that means anything.
Posted by djangochained
Gardere
Member since Jul 2013
19057 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 5:26 pm to
Is this place still open?

Is it an urgent care type place?
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
39831 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 5:30 pm to
Yes it's an urgent care clinic and when I drove by it yesterday it was still open. It's a pretty new clinic.
Posted by djangochained
Gardere
Member since Jul 2013
19057 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 5:32 pm to
How is your wife doing?
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
39831 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 5:34 pm to
She is doing okay. She is active in the church community and has been receiving a lot of support through them.
Posted by lsuwontonwrap
Member since Aug 2012
34147 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 5:37 pm to
I'm still praying for you. And I'm angry for you, too. This shouldn't have happened.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
130305 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 5:39 pm to
As I said earlier, sorry for what you are going through, but glad you have a church community to support you during this time. Prayers continued for you and your family.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
47616 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 5:45 pm to
Prayers to you and your wife. Very few of us can understand your grief but know that you have all of our prayers. I could provide some insight but now isn't the time. The best advice I can give if it is worth anything to you. Is there is no text book to dealing with this. A lot of people will try to help, it will be genuine and heart felt. You and your wife must find what comforts you, there is no right or wrong way to do this.
This post was edited on 3/20/19 at 5:54 pm
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
10341 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 5:55 pm to
Just said a prayer for you and your family. What a tough thing to go through. My God be with you and your wife to help get y'all through this.
Posted by 62Tigerfan
Member since Sep 2015
5101 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 7:06 pm to
quote:

They kept having problems getting his IV to flow so they had placed a pressure sleeve on the outside of the IV bag and we're applying pressure to it.


Given the abrupt nature of this event, this increases the odds that an air embolism secondary to the pressure bag was the culprit. This is a rare occurence but certainly possible. This needs to be investigated as a possibility in the death of your son.

I am so sorry for your loss.
Posted by BooDreaux
Orlandeaux
Member since Sep 2011
3300 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 7:13 pm to
My deepest condolences on your loss.

I just cannot comprehend how you and your wife must be feeling.

My prayers are with you both and your entire family.
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