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re: Please inform me why Entergy is doing rolling blackouts?
Posted on 2/18/21 at 9:57 am to tigerbacon
Posted on 2/18/21 at 9:57 am to tigerbacon
These companies all buy power from each other and when one system is put under pressure they all panic and try to conserve what they have. These rolling blackouts are their attempt to "equitably spread the pain" of conserving.
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Posted on 2/18/21 at 10:00 am to tigerbacon
People in Louisiana were laughing at Texans dealing with this on Monday...
Life comes atcha fast.
Life comes atcha fast.
Posted on 2/18/21 at 11:21 pm to ell_13
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Just because the doors are locked at a business or school doesn’t mean the power consumption stops. Many lights remain on and the heater/cooling system remains active. Also, the amount of consumption one retail store has doesn’t come close to the consumption of the homes of all of the workers and patrons who are home instead
You can't be this dumb.
Tell.me what INCREASED is usage. Cause you could name 100s of decreased consumption businesses and facilities, etc
I hear you saying home heaters kick on, but you have to NOT count any gas heaters and stoves in homes...so no increase in those at all.
Please please show me stats from yesterday where 38 degrees for 24 hrs was enough increased electrical assumption to make grids go thru rolling blackouts.
Before blackouts, wouldn't the first step be to cut all non essential Street lights and things of that nature? Maybe force ALL BUSINESS not to have any signage on, etc etc
Mid to high 30s for over 24 hrs and cities need rolling blackouts? You see no problem with that info?
Posted on 2/18/21 at 11:57 pm to Hangit
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The school system was broken by a federal judge in the early 80's.
There should be a holiday every year where people line up to shite on that man's grave.
This post was edited on 2/19/21 at 12:02 am
Posted on 2/19/21 at 4:28 am to ell_13
This is the cold dark winter Joe Biden promised us. Thanks Joe you friggin doom bringer!
Posted on 2/19/21 at 5:07 am to the LSUSaint
quote:I literally did just that.
You can't be this dumb.
Tell.me what INCREASED is usage. Cause you could name 100s of decreased consumption businesses and facilities, etc
A business that has its doors closed will still have its heater on working overtime to even stay at 65° When it’s 10° outside. That’s still more usage than if the lights are on but it’s 60° outside. It’s a pretty simple example and easy to understand. I’m sorry it’s so difficult for you.
quote:I’d be happy to show you the load (consumption) totals for this week. Reports are available to the public on MISO’s website and I’m sure on ERCOT’s too. I’ll find them for you later this morning when I’m on my PC.
Please please show me stats from yesterday where 38 degrees for 24 hrs was enough increased electrical assumption to make grids go thru rolling blackouts.
quote:You think there’s a switch for all street lights? Or do you want a bucket truck stopping at every single one to remove the bulb? And am I reading this right that you want to “force” businesses to turn off their signs. What if that’s on the same breaker as the heater? And how do you enforce it? Are you saying we should fine small businesses during a pandemic if their street sign is on when it’s too cold? How cold? Describe to me how this “law” will work and how it’s practical???
Before blackouts, wouldn't the first step be to cut all non essential Street lights and things of that nature? Maybe force ALL BUSINESS not to have any signage on, etc etc
You start your post calling me dumb but I don’t think I’ve ever read so much ignorance in one post.
Posted on 2/19/21 at 5:56 am to ell_13
Dang! Lay it on that ignernt pecker-head. 
Posted on 2/19/21 at 6:31 am to tigerbacon
In truth this is simply a Democratic Party policy. It happens out west often. It’s simply forcing the use of less energy.
Posted on 2/19/21 at 9:33 am to ell_13
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You think there’s a switch for all street lights?
Why isn’t there?
Posted on 2/19/21 at 9:40 am to ell_13
Lots of words...absolutely NO explanation on how overall electrical consumption increased. None
And PLEASE tell.me how 25 hours at over 35 degrees is enough yo to overrun the system
And PLEASE tell.me how 25 hours at over 35 degrees is enough yo to overrun the system
Posted on 2/19/21 at 10:11 am to the LSUSaint
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I hear you saying home heaters kick on, but you have to NOT count any gas heaters and stoves in homes
Gas heaters still use electricity.....
More people than you think use electric heaters. 48% of homes in the nation have gas heaters. In Louisiana it’s only 33% that have gas heaters.
Posted on 2/19/21 at 10:34 am to the LSUSaint
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Before blackouts, wouldn't the first step be to cut all non essential Street lights and things of that nature? Maybe force ALL BUSINESS not to have any signage on, etc etc Mid to high 30s for over 24 hrs and cities need rolling blackouts? You see no problem with that info?
You are only considering the demand side of the problem, Entergy and other utilities have a decreased supply of natural gas due to the sustained sub-freezing temperatures shutting down gas wells and other infrastructure in the natural gas supply chain.
Posted on 2/19/21 at 10:47 am to EA6B
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You are only considering the demand side of the problem, Entergy and other utilities have a decreased supply of natural gas due to the sustained sub-freezing temperatures shutting down gas wells and other infrastructure in the natural gas supply chain.
Lol.....no. thats not what went on w gas.
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sub-freezing temperatures shutting down gas wells
Not sure how to help you on this. Would be a long conversation...but thats not correct to act like gas flows from wells to the kitchen.
But I get your overall premise
Posted on 2/19/21 at 11:04 am to the LSUSaint
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absolutely NO explanation on how overall electrical consumption increased. None
I don’t know how much more simple I can make it for you. Cold weather means more heaters and people inside their homes. No one is leaving or on the road. One business or home with people inside it all the time or the heaters running constantly can more than make up for the energy usage for a few homes with power out. In other words, for every house without power, there’s another house running enough electricity to more than make up for it. People are stuck in their homes. More lights are on. More TVs and electronics. Cooking instead of going out. Heater on constantly. All that consumption is equal to 5+ homes on a normal day of people at work, kids at school, etc. I don’t know how to make it easier for you man.
This post was edited on 2/19/21 at 11:07 am
Posted on 2/19/21 at 11:07 am to ABucks11
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Gas heaters still use electricity.....
Maybe a control panel AT MOST.
But explain how electricity demand went up on gas heaters. Gas heaters that are part of Central air systems or water heaters do not consume more power just because its cold.
But here's the kicker...would you expect the grid to crash if it were 40 degrees for 5 days? Because there is really no difference in heating consumption.
Because, taking it a step further, schools and other facilities of ANY kind wouldn't close at 40 degrees. So wouldn't demand of both gas and electricity be as high or higher at 35-40 degrees?
Posted on 2/19/21 at 11:08 am to the LSUSaint
quote:Except they do. The blower is electric. That’s a lot of energy use right there. FFS, man. Take the L and move on.
Maybe a control panel AT MOST.
But explain how electricity demand went up on gas heaters. Gas heaters that are part of Central air systems or water heaters do not consume more power just because its cold.
Posted on 2/19/21 at 11:10 am to the LSUSaint
quote:Baton Rouge literally just broke the record for most consecutive hours below 40 and it was right at 5 days.
But here's the kicker...would you expect the grid to crash if it were 40 degrees for 5 days? Because there is really no difference in heating consumption.
Because, taking it a step further, schools and other facilities of ANY kind wouldn't close at 40 degrees. So wouldn't demand of both gas and electricity be as high or higher at 35-40 degrees?
And yes, both gas and power consumption increase. Duh. Posted on 2/19/21 at 1:21 pm to ell_13
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The blower is electric. That’s a lot of energy use right there. FFS, man. Take the L and move on.
Oh, you mean the same blower that blows year round? That blower?
So answer why it drains more electricity between 36 degrees and 28 degrees outside.
LOL...go read the Texas electricity bills thread and you'll start to get a grasp of why they do it...
Please.please please tell.me why BR has issues when it didn't freeze yesterday
Posted on 2/19/21 at 1:23 pm to the LSUSaint
quote:what part of it being on nearly 24/7 don’t you understand? Seriously, are you trolling? Because I can’t believe anyone is truly this stupid.
Oh, you mean the same blower that blows year round? That blower?
quote:Because. People. Were. Home. All. Day. And. Running. Their. Electricity.
Please.please please tell.me why BR has issues when it didn't freeze yesterday
Posted on 2/19/21 at 1:37 pm to ell_13
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Because. People. Were. Home. All. Day. And. Running. Their. Electricity.
On Christmas day, if it's 40 degrees, we should have blackouts then, right?
All biz is closed and everyone is home...just like now, right?
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