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re: Plant Safety question

Posted on 8/31/24 at 1:07 pm to
Posted by ChestRockwell
In the heart of horse country
Member since Jul 2021
6158 posts
Posted on 8/31/24 at 1:07 pm to
No nitrogen means your chances of an explosion or fire greatly increases, with flammable products.
Posted by DTRooster
Belle River, La
Member since Dec 2013
8638 posts
Posted on 8/31/24 at 1:17 pm to
I don’t know bro. We run for years at a time and only use nitrogen to prep equipment to be opened up for maintenance or O2 free for service after maintenance. Follow your procedures is the only thing I can tell you
Posted by ChestRockwell
In the heart of horse country
Member since Jul 2021
6158 posts
Posted on 8/31/24 at 1:22 pm to
That's what I pay union dues
Posted by DTRooster
Belle River, La
Member since Dec 2013
8638 posts
Posted on 8/31/24 at 1:23 pm to
WTF does that mean.
Posted by brsa
Baton Rouge, La.
Member since Sep 2007
1171 posts
Posted on 8/31/24 at 1:24 pm to
Follow SOP or SWA.
Posted by ChestRockwell
In the heart of horse country
Member since Jul 2021
6158 posts
Posted on 8/31/24 at 1:26 pm to
Plus, I have dirt on the safety guy with a witness. Holding that card in my back pocket. Made comment about girth towards a certain part of my body taking a leak. That's neither here or there lol
Posted by GeauxTigers0107
South Louisiana
Member since Oct 2009
10352 posts
Posted on 8/31/24 at 1:28 pm to
Are you company or contract
Posted by tokenBoiler
Lafayette, Indiana
Member since Aug 2012
4841 posts
Posted on 8/31/24 at 1:30 pm to
quote:

Can't get clipped for being safe right?
I don't know anything at all about plant work other than from stories on TD, but I gotta think that if you truly believed that, you would have done it already.

Good luck.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
31876 posts
Posted on 8/31/24 at 1:30 pm to
If your company is willing to operate like that, there’s a good chance you’ll face backlash if you report with your name or use stop work authority. Seems like management is more concerned about $ than safety
Posted by ChestRockwell
In the heart of horse country
Member since Jul 2021
6158 posts
Posted on 8/31/24 at 1:33 pm to
Oh they are.
Posted by GeauxTigers0107
South Louisiana
Member since Oct 2009
10352 posts
Posted on 8/31/24 at 1:37 pm to
quote:

is having inoperable nitrogen an OSHA violation


OSHA gets specific on very few things. They give guidelines. OSHA's General Duty Clause basically says that employers are required to provide a safe workplace for their employees. They have to provide a workplace free of recognized hazards, especially those that could cause serious bodily harm or death. That's it.

The question becomes, are they creating a hazardous environment/situation by not having Nitrogen available.

You need to read up on yall's policy on product transfers to the tanks and see if it mentions anything on using Nitrogen.
Posted by Tigerfan1274
Member since May 2019
4080 posts
Posted on 8/31/24 at 1:38 pm to
quote:

Oh they are


Is there an operating procedure that states nitrogen is used in the process of transferring the flammable material? If so, don’t do it and ask some questions.
Posted by GeauxTigers0107
South Louisiana
Member since Oct 2009
10352 posts
Posted on 8/31/24 at 1:39 pm to
quote:

there’s a good chance you’ll face backlash if you report with your name


OSHA Anonymous Tip Line: 1-800-321-OSHA (6742)
Posted by ChestRockwell
In the heart of horse country
Member since Jul 2021
6158 posts
Posted on 8/31/24 at 1:42 pm to
I'll look that up once I go in tonight
Posted by Sgt_Lincoln_Osiris
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2014
1129 posts
Posted on 8/31/24 at 1:45 pm to
Your company should call and order a nitrogen pumped truck. Airgas, Linde, whoever. It’s not cheap, but it’s portable and on demand for these situations.
Posted by brsa
Baton Rouge, La.
Member since Sep 2007
1171 posts
Posted on 8/31/24 at 1:45 pm to
If you are in any kind of authoritative roll it is your duty to report your concern.
Remember, your coworkers want to go home to their families as do you.

Please follow the procedure as there are sequence mandatory steps as well as consequence of deviation guidelines. Stay safe.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
172744 posts
Posted on 8/31/24 at 1:50 pm to
Make sure to post on tigerdroppings and keep us updated while you're at work and dealing with this potentially dangerous situation.
Posted by Relham10
Ridge
Member since Jan 2013
18669 posts
Posted on 8/31/24 at 1:54 pm to
As long as no air (oxygen) is getting into the lines and vessels that yall store yall flammables, I'd think it would be fine. If yall are depressing for work to cut on the lines then you would need the nitrogen.
Posted by DTRooster
Belle River, La
Member since Dec 2013
8638 posts
Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:09 pm to
Thank you. I was about ask this guy how often he purges his propane bottle with nitrogen to keep it from blowing up under his bbq pit.
Posted by noon0707
Member since Sep 2010
272 posts
Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:10 pm to
If you are purging lines after use you absolutely cannot use air to do this. Nitrogen is what should be used. Air can create an explosive atmosphere. Don’t do it


This is what I have done for a living for many years, this can end badly. I’d bring it to supervisions attention immediately. They absolutely know this is dead wrong. If they don’t, you work for dip shits and need a new job where you won’t die
This post was edited on 8/31/24 at 2:22 pm
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