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re: Plane that departed Gonzales has crashed in Tennessee.
Posted on 5/16/24 at 8:04 pm to GeauxTigers123
Posted on 5/16/24 at 8:04 pm to GeauxTigers123
I don’t know them. It reminds me of the crash with Steve Ensminger’s DIL. Different facts but stunningly tragic. An inlaw’s niece and her child died in that crash. I think that may have been pilot error or choice. Someone else will know.
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Posted on 5/16/24 at 8:05 pm to GeauxTigers123
I've worked with the mother of the children, who is an anesthesiologist. Lovely woman. Hard to imagine what she's going through right now. Absolutely awful.
Posted on 5/16/24 at 8:05 pm to ZIGG
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reason number 15.85 million to not fly private aircraft.
GA is actually very safe. Most accidents and crashes are pilot error which is either a product of the pilot not being properly trained or not continuing their learning.
Flying is just like any other discipline. You have to keep wanting to learn the new regulations and techniques to stay proficient in your aircraft.
Some guys get the PPL and show up for their BFR every two years with the same CFI that trained them and the “bad habits” never get fixed.
Posted on 5/16/24 at 8:11 pm to GVT
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've worked with the mother of the children, who is an anesthesiologist. Lovely woman. Hard to imagine what she's going through right now. Absolutely awful.
Not that it matters, but were they still married. The picture in the Unfiltered article looks like the father was a groom on the beach. Could have been redoing vows.
In any event, the mother of these beautiful children is suffering. The sister is suffering and so many others. I’d have to be sedated.
Posted on 5/16/24 at 8:12 pm to JasonDBlaha
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She only had like 500 hours of flying under her belt and still got her PPL.
Dude, the minimum hours for PPL is 35-40 (141-61) and the national average is ~65-70.
500 hours is more akin to a commercial pilots license and building time towards an ATP, which is what she was doing.
It wasn’t so much that she was “incompetent” as you put it. She was flying an aircraft with a new avionics system (autopilot) that she wasn’t proficient in.
There are many competent pilots with under 500 hours, and many who have over 500 hours and are not proficient. It just happened that the one thing she didn’t have a lot of time learning is what killed her. Tragic story.
Posted on 5/16/24 at 8:12 pm to Gris Gris
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Not that it matters, but were they still married.
No
Posted on 5/16/24 at 8:21 pm to BK Lounge
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I dont understand how people read or see things like that and think it cant happen to them.
If people who fly think “it can’t happen to me” that’s a hazardous attitude and that person should not be flying in the first place.
For those who fly safely and make it to the ground, they have the thought process that it “CAN happen” and don't take unnecessary risk.
This post was edited on 5/16/24 at 8:26 pm
Posted on 5/16/24 at 8:27 pm to GeauxTigers123
From LSU:
Posted on 5/16/24 at 8:34 pm to GVT
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No
Was he remarried?
Posted on 5/16/24 at 8:48 pm to jcaz
I knew Jenny & her Dad great people. I think her flight instructor needs his credentials checked. The elevation radar data on her last flight look like an ekg. Trying to control the elevation of the plane by using the Auto Pilot! She was on her way to get a full garmin avionics for a Christmas gift.
Posted on 5/16/24 at 8:56 pm to Gris Gris
Shouldn't put all your eggs in one basket (plane). At least the other survived by not being on the plane. If flown commercial they'd all be alive.
Posted on 5/16/24 at 9:05 pm to VernonPLSUfan
Taking a private airplane from Gonzales to Louisville is a perfectly acceptable risk. There is absolutely nothing irresponsible about it. Life is risky, we all accept risk every day and statistically it’s going to end badly for some of us and not end badly for a lot more of us. And the odds of getting out of this thing alive, is of course zero. Live your life bravely, take acceptable risks, and hope for the best. But no guarantees other than eventual death.
Posted on 5/16/24 at 9:09 pm to phil good
I have a rule I will never get on a small plane or helicopter they are literally death machines
Posted on 5/16/24 at 9:11 pm to RaoulDuke504
Small planes are pretty awesome. It’s an entirely different experience. I’ve spent a lot of time in a Piper Seneca.
Posted on 5/16/24 at 9:13 pm to RaoulDuke504
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have a rule I will never get on a small plane or helicopter they are literally death machines
I don’t do motorcycles. bicycles or small automobiles either.
Posted on 5/16/24 at 9:22 pm to Lsupimp
quote:And I bet all were as giddy as hell on taking such a risk.
other than eventual death
Posted on 5/16/24 at 9:30 pm to phil good
Big altitude increase with drop to 100 knots then the last reading was a vertical speed of -26,000 fpm. 
Posted on 5/17/24 at 10:31 am to 9Fiddy
Same exact type of plane crashed in the middle of Augusta, Georgia last month. I don’t care what anybody on these threads says about how safe general aviation is, I will never get in a plane that has that type of tail on it. Ever.
Posted on 5/17/24 at 10:32 am to Joehat
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I will never get in a plane that has that type of tail on it. Ever.
don't think it was the plane
Posted on 5/17/24 at 10:52 am to 0x15E
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Dude, the minimum hours for PPL is 35-40 (141-61) and the national average is ~65-70.
500 hours is more akin to a commercial pilots license and building time towards an ATP, which is what she was doing.
It wasn’t so much that she was “incompetent” as you put it. She was flying an aircraft with a new avionics system (autopilot) that she wasn’t proficient in.
There are many competent pilots with under 500 hours, and many who have over 500 hours and are not proficient. It just happened that the one thing she didn’t have a lot of time learning is what killed her. Tragic story.
In my private lessons and Air Force Nav Training 30 years ago, I was taught 500 hours was early in the "I've got this" window where pilots start subconsciously thinking "I've seen everything." It leads to unearned relaxation in the cockpit, which can lead to a pilot not paying enough attention to the small things that can get him/her in trouble.
Doesn't happen to everyone, and it may not be a problem in this specific case.
(My private instructor hated Bonanzas and was the source of me hearing the "Doctor Killer" saying. They've had a bad reputation for a long time.)
So sorry for the family.
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