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Pilots of the OT!

Posted on 5/30/18 at 5:35 am
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
64048 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 5:35 am
Is ADS-B going to replace the Mode C/S transponders?
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
38535 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 5:41 am to
Take your fricking Ebonics elsewhere
Posted by 31TIGERS
Mike’s habitat
Member since Dec 2004
7219 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 5:44 am to
quote:

Is ADS-B going to replace the Mode C/S transponders?


It depends. I’ve heard of no such thing.
Posted by CrimsonTideMD
Member since Dec 2010
7124 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 5:45 am to
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
74075 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 5:56 am to
could be a long long time before it's completely replaced but ADS-B will be mandatory in the US in the coming years
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
62935 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 6:17 am to
I thought this was a call to former LSU-S folks. I didn’t go there. Still, I am disappoint.
Posted by Junky
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2005
9323 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 6:37 am to
It is one of those grand plans the FAA rolls out, hardly gets funding for, and a decade later still talking up. See NextGen.
This post was edited on 5/30/18 at 6:38 am
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
64048 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 7:15 am to
I know a lot of pilots are griping about the program because the equipment is expensive, and the requirement (lack of equipment) would exclude a lot of aircraft from Class B and C airspace.
Posted by Scoobie
Member since Jul 2017
188 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 8:06 am to
Seems that way, I say just stick to using both.

For people that don’t understand, ADS-B feeds to this website planefinder.com in which you can track any plane in the air at a given time as long as you know the Buno or C/S.
Posted by FredsGotSlacks
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2008
917 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 8:41 am to
quote:

I know a lot of pilots are griping about the program because the equipment is expensive, and the requirement (lack of equipment) would exclude a lot of aircraft from Class B and C airspace.

I don’t know any pilots griping about it, the only people griping about it are the cheap asses who have to retrofit their 172 with a 10-20 K piece of avionics that’s 1/4 the value of their airplane.

I think some airplanes built/certificated before a certain date are exempt so I think it’s a fairly well designed rule and implementation process, especially since the FAA announced mandatory implementation for 2020 quite a while back. Undoubtedly there will be issues and it will be delayed though.
Posted by TheDeathValley
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2010
20779 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 8:46 am to
ADS-B will eventually become mandatory but I think it will be a long roll out. The reality is that it is a much better system, and relatively cheap to install.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43534 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 8:55 am to
Reading on the FAA website, I am kinda shocked this hasn't been implemented sooner.

I am not a pilot, but having real-time information for things around me seems pretty darn advantageous to have. Especially weather-related issues.

quote:

AIRMET Airmen's Meteorological Information: A weather advisory issued by a meteorological watch office for aircraft that is potentially hazardous to low-level aircraft /aircraft with limited capability. AIRMETs cover less severe weather than SIGMETs: moderate turbulence & icing, surface winds of 30 knots, or widespread restricted visibility.


Convective SIGMET Convective Significant Meteorological Information: Issued for an area of thunderstorms affecting an area of 3,000 square miles or greater, a line of thunderstorms at least 60 nm long, and/or severe or embedded thunderstorms affecting any area that are expected to last 30 minutes or longer.


SIGMET Significant Meteorological Information: A weather advisory that contains meteorological information concerning the safety of all aircraft: severe or greater turbulence over a 3,000-square-mile area, severe or greater icing over a 3,000-square-mile area, IMC conditions over a 3,000-square-mile area due to dust, sand, or volcanic ash.


METAR Aviation routine weather report: Contains data for the temperature, dew point, wind speed & direction, precipitation, cloud cover & heights, visibility, and barometric pressure. Reports are typically generated once an hour.


These all seem like very cool products to have.
Posted by Fat Harry
70115
Member since Mar 2005
2403 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 8:56 am to
ADS-B out is mandatory in controlled airspace by 2020. That's been the rule for a decade now.
Posted by jdd48
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
24064 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 9:06 am to
quote:

could be a long long time before it's completely replaced but ADS-B will be mandatory in the US in the coming years


I'd imagine some revision of the spec will be needed to address security flaws first.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
64048 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 9:07 am to
quote:

I don’t know any pilots griping about it, the only people griping about it are the cheap asses who have to retrofit their 172 with a 10-20 K piece of avionics that’s 1/4 the value of their airplane.



These and sport pilots in their over-priced LSAs.
Posted by FredsGotSlacks
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2008
917 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 9:15 am to
quote:

Reading on the FAA website, I am kinda shocked this hasn't been implemented sooner. I am not a pilot, but having real-time information for things around me seems pretty darn advantageous to have. Especially weather-related issues.

All of that is already available and required to be reviewed before a flight. You can also contact a flight service station in air on different frequencies if you want an update although it’s a pain in the arse. ADSB just gives it to you in the airplane as/if it’s updated and also gives you graphical weather which is huge for small airplanes not equipped with radar. The biggest benefit is enhanced traffic awareness, it is extremely precise and a huge benefit for situational awareness. When I started out I was a flight instructor in Houston, I had so many oh shite moments out in the practice area because people weren’t communicating their location, if I would’ve had ADSB it wouldn’t have been an issue because I could’ve seen everyone (assuming they were properly equipped) in the vicinity.
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