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re: Pilot in deadly Iowa, LA helicopter crash had student license
Posted on 11/20/24 at 12:52 pm to jcaz
Posted on 11/20/24 at 12:52 pm to jcaz
Maybe 10 or 12 years ago, I had a friend who flew for the LAANG part-time and LSP full-time. He was about in his mid-40s. He was a fit guy, but developed high blood pressure. I'm pretty sure the Guard grounded him over it and he couldn't fly as command pilot for State Police.
It all got resolved, but as I recall it took almost a year. Maybe a Med Certificates is easier to get for private pilots, but it caused quite a bit of aggravation for him for a while.
It all got resolved, but as I recall it took almost a year. Maybe a Med Certificates is easier to get for private pilots, but it caused quite a bit of aggravation for him for a while.
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Posted on 11/20/24 at 12:55 pm to White Roach
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a Med Certificates is easier to get for private pilots
not up on GA flying but I work with a guy that is a civilian DPE and he told me that you don't even need a medical certificate for a lot of Part 91 flying, commercial medical exams scrutinize a bit deeper, especially as you age, controlled hypertension isn't really a big deal though
ETA: and you can bet his flight instructor will be standing tall before the man for this investigation
This post was edited on 11/20/24 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 11/20/24 at 12:56 pm to Topwater Trout
Its amazing you can buy a helicopter, fuel, etc. without having your pilots' license and other credentials. Sure maybe you have a private pilot, but you'd think the person flying should be required to sign off on it with a license.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 1:34 pm to CalCajun
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it can go unfound forever unless they are ramp checked randomly by some one out of the FAA FSDO office.
So a ramp check is an unannounced site visit inspection? Do the FSDO offices have to conduct so many of those annually?
This post was edited on 11/20/24 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 11/20/24 at 1:38 pm to 777Tiger
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I wonder if it ever dawned on his instructor how the helicopter got to the airport for their scheduled flight lessons?
Does the instructor have any legal obligation to report a student if they suspect flights are occurring that shouldn't be?
Posted on 11/20/24 at 1:43 pm to facher08
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Does the instructor have any legal obligation to report a student if they suspect flights are occurring that shouldn't be?
he or she is about to find out
Posted on 11/20/24 at 1:43 pm to baldona
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Its amazing you can buy a helicopter, fuel, etc. without having your pilots' license and other credentials.
that is crazy
Posted on 11/20/24 at 1:46 pm to Topwater Trout
the owner of the aircraft, vessel,etc., doesn’t have to have a license to own it, operating is a different thing
Posted on 11/20/24 at 1:51 pm to facher08
I mean morally it should be an obligation. Any person flying a helicopter or airplane with out a license is a hazard to the public, case in point
Posted on 11/20/24 at 2:18 pm to Tchefuncte Tiger
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What I don't understand is the student pilot had 139 hours, nearly 4x the number to be licensed? Why wasn't he licensed?
After reading all of this, this is what I would question. In fixed wing, you can get a private pilots license with a minimum of 40 hours. I guess it’s about the same for helicopters.
Why was he not licensed after 139 hours…or did he fudge his log book ?
Posted on 11/20/24 at 2:28 pm to Tempratt
Picture of him was not what I expected.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 2:34 pm to ElderTiger
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did he fudge his log book ?
he was probably pencil whipping but the only time he could legally enter would be his solo time or with an instructor, carrying of passengers prohibited
Posted on 11/20/24 at 2:36 pm to 777Tiger
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the owner of the aircraft, vessel,etc., doesn’t have to have a license to own it, operating is a different thing
Sure, but like I said above, they should have their pilot and I'm guessing he has a License number or something? Sign off.
Its ludicrous you can just go out and buy an aircraft without having any requirement to fly it. It would be like allowing a 12 year old to buy a car.
Can you even register a vehicle without a DL?
Posted on 11/20/24 at 2:38 pm to baldona
quote:sounds like freedom, you sound like a bitch.
Its ludicrous you can just go out and buy an aircraft without having any requirement to fly it.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 2:38 pm to baldona
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Sure, but like I said above, they should have their pilot and I'm guessing he has a License number or something? Sign off.
not required
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Can you even register a vehicle without a DL?
sure, think commercial fleet vehicles
Posted on 11/20/24 at 3:01 pm to SWLA92
quote:I don’t see that. If I wanna buy a plane and hire pilots to fly me around in it I should be able to, I’m a little short on that at the moment
mean morally it should be an obligation.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 3:17 pm to tigerfoot
I don’t think you understand what I was referring to. A flight instructor should be obligated to report on a person flying a helicopter with no license.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 3:21 pm to SWLA92
quote:sorry. Yes it seems they would not be able to turn a blind eye
I don’t think you understand what I was referring to. A flight instructor should be obligated to report on a person flying a helicopter with no license.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 3:37 pm to tigerfoot
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I don’t see that. If I wanna buy a plane and hire pilots to fly me around in it I should be able to, I’m a little short on that at the moment
Sure, but I don't think its a crazy government over reach to then require your pilot put his license down on anything you buy.
A pilot's license requires 40 hours, but this was at night which would require IFR rating normally correct?
Posted on 11/20/24 at 3:39 pm to baldona
But what if he is sick? Or quits flying for me because I hire someone else? No pilot should be beholden to putting his name in paperwork, I have CDL drivers. I am not a CDL driver, but I buy trucks all the time.
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