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re: Ineos Grenadier 4x4

Posted on 7/1/20 at 12:18 pm to
Posted by Jefferson Darcy
Next to Al
Member since Aug 2009
532 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 12:18 pm to
quote:

what are the odds they are sold in the US?



None when we got dis:


Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
13899 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 12:21 pm to
quote:

what are the odds they are sold in the US?
None, brought to you by Ford, GM, EPA, NTSB, etc.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 12:22 pm to
I want it.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19255 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 12:25 pm to
They plan on selling them here.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
59663 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 12:29 pm to
Is that part of that crew in kaplan. Saw 2 on interstate monday night
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32096 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 12:54 pm to
Will LR dealers sell them?
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
16564 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 12:59 pm to
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It’s billed as a Land Rover Defender


Hope this guy remakes a functional LR Discovery Series II next. Great SUV look with terrible mechanics.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19255 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 1:00 pm to
Ineos is a chemical company that’s branching out. The founder just loves the Defender - he tried to buy the rights when JLR stopped making them.

When JLR heard about the project they attempted to copyright the silhouette of the original Defender, and they even sued Ineos to stop the project.

JLR lost both battles.

Ineos talked at one point about a direct to consumer sales model. I don’t know what that actually means.

Ineos owns the old British motorcycle clothing company Belstaff, and they sponsor a number of sports teams, from F1 to cycling.
This post was edited on 7/1/20 at 1:19 pm
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 1:02 pm to
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Screams "I'm a wannabe douche with more money than sense."


I would be in the market for one. Something I could drive for 15 years with minimal depreciation and very little to go wrong.

Closest thing you can get to breaking even buying a new car these days.
Posted by holmesbr
Baton Rouge, La.
Member since Feb 2012
3008 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 1:43 pm to
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 talked at one point about a direct to consumer sales model. I don’t know what that actually means.


Same sales model as Tesla. The BS auto lobby will try to tell you that you need a dealership to bring it to for service and purchase. This needs to change.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19255 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 1:52 pm to
I’d like to see that happen.

The exact quote was “we’ll sell it to you in a field.”

They see farmers as a core market, so I’m guessing the idea is, they’d drive it to to your farm for a test drive, if that’s what it takes.
Posted by IH8ThreePutts
Member since Mar 2018
1444 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 1:57 pm to
Pics look like it’ll have a solid front axle, so that’s a great start. I’d just be worried about the maintenance on the BMW motor.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23191 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 2:16 pm to
Needs a brush guard to safely navigate today’s urban riot war zones. Otherwise looks well equipped.
Posted by FlyinTiger93
Member since May 2010
3585 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 2:26 pm to
A BMW drivetrain should give you the same experience as the original Land Rover. Hello, service department.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19255 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 2:55 pm to
They’re using Carraro axles, ZF transmissions, and the straight six from BMW.

I have no experience with that motor. But they have been making it for a long time.
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
39015 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 3:41 pm to
I have a non turbo straight six in my BMW...and holy shite if they put the manual transmission.from my 5 series in this thing it would be insane.
Posted by weaveballs1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
3040 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 4:40 pm to
This is the first I've seen of this. Definitely interested if it makes it here. I've wanted a Defender for years and was excited when I heard LR was going to sell the new version here and then predictably disappointed at the bougie POS they came out with.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19255 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 6:22 pm to
They’re selling a manual version

Here’s a reveal video they put out today.

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This post was edited on 7/1/20 at 6:44 pm
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 6:26 pm to
quote:

They’re selling a manual version


Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19255 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 6:48 pm to
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I've wanted a Defender for years


The Rest of World (ROW) spec vehicles that are being imported these days are affordable. And you can get a bargain with the ex MOD trucks, as long as you don’t mind driving a visibly military configured vehicle.

I grew up on Land Rovers, I’ve probably owned seven or eight, but build quality was always the devil. LR never had the budgets to do it right.

Of course, I’m currently looking for a Defender 90 right now A Spanish or Italian import.
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