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re: Personal injury fraud ring is hitting the news.

Posted on 10/31/18 at 4:00 pm to
Posted by fatboydave
Fat boy land
Member since Aug 2004
17979 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 4:00 pm to
LOL at Tort Reform
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Mike Foster, no friend of lawsuits and plaintiff attorneys, was elected governor. He ran on a platform of tort reform as did many newly elected members of the Legislature. Governor Foster wasted little time taking up that challenge. He called a special session shortly after his inauguration and pushed a package of three major reform bills to bring some balance back to the civil justice arena—and to remind the state Supreme Court that it was the Legislature’s job to write laws, not the court’s.


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Foster’s three-bill package included reforms long sought after by LABI and the business community: strict liability, joint and several liability, and punitive damages reforms.


No pay..No play also passed in his first session. Look at how low he brought our insurance rates. Thanks Gov Foster
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 4:01 pm to
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Vote for Tort Reform.


Whenever I bring this up on the poliboard, you get gnashing teeth and howling from the ambulance chasers and their sympathizers there.

They managed to delay it four years by going all in on Vitter's hookers and propping up Dardenne and Angelle but sooner or later it will happen here in Louisiana and they will be brought to heel.
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
8101 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 4:02 pm to
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So a severely injured worker has to take it in the shorts so multi billion dollar companies can save some money...


The claim I'm referring to came from a sprained ankle...I shite you not


ETA: Also, this isn't about the insurance company, it's about fellow consumers. Insurance companies are going to make that money back regardless of the outcome. Hence the rate hikes in Louisiana
This post was edited on 10/31/18 at 4:04 pm
Posted by Chief Hinge
There and Here
Member since Sep 2018
3198 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 4:04 pm to
Perhaps a firm of brothers (real life, not black) and one of their sons?
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
175886 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 4:05 pm to
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Insurance companies are going to make that money back regardless of the outcome.


most auto insurers in LA has been losing money every year.

They get rate hikes cause the alternative is they are gone and there will be nobody left.
Posted by WoWyHi
Member since Jul 2009
23339 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 4:06 pm to
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boosiebadazz


Will I see your name on the list?
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
119640 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 4:07 pm to
You repeat your talking points and leave. Every time.
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
8101 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 4:08 pm to
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They get rate hikes cause the alternative is they are gone and there will be nobody left.


You're in insurance and you think that's why we get rate hikes? If an industry suffers losses, carriers raise rates to compensate for losses. This is why people like actuarials have jobs. If losses continue, then the carrier gets out of the industry. This is pretty basic stuff.

I've worked on both the company and agency side


ETA: Furthermore, about that "alternative to leaving the state." What comp carriers were in the state of Louisiana in 1991? I'll give you a hint, it's zero. Hence the existence of LWCC. Commercial auto is headed down the same path. We have about 4 carriers in LA at this point
This post was edited on 10/31/18 at 4:13 pm
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
175886 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 4:11 pm to
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If an industry suffers losses, carriers raise rates to compensate for losses. This is why people like actuarials have jobs.


Actuarials are projecting future losses not making up for previous losses
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
8101 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 4:14 pm to
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Actuarials are projecting future losses not making up for previous losses


How do they project further losses? Out of whole cloth? No, from loss history.
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
21496 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 4:14 pm to
There is an ortho in N.O. who all the plt attys use for major cases.At one point 2 yrs ago he was performing 7 back surgeries a week @ $25K a pop. Do the math. Another's specialty is taking a ankle injury and working his way up to the back. Bad ankle leads to a bad gait, knee messed up, so surgery on ankle and knee, bad knee messes up the hip, hip surgery which leads to a bad back which leads to back surgery . What are the odds that there are kickbacks out there?
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
175886 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 4:17 pm to
You just conceded my point
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
8101 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 4:19 pm to
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Chad504boy


Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 4:20 pm to
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insureds pay my bills not companies.

when an insured is that pissed off at a company, they are going to leave me even though i'm an independent that represents many.

why the hell do i want my insured mad? The company saving $500 in a claim or trying to deny rightful coverage helps me none


How many times have you went to bat and fight for lower premiums for your insured? I’m not talking about just claims I’m talking about premium increases for homeowners and auto insurance year after year after year with no claims whatsoever. Higher premiums are higher commissions for you so I doubt very seriously that you go to bat to get them lower premiums by then it’s too late they can’t shop around because they’re locked in to their rates because y’all are use the same underwriters.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
175886 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 4:24 pm to
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How many times have you went to bat and fight for lower premiums for your insured? I’m not talking about just claims I’m talking about premium increases for homeowners and auto insurance year after year after year with no claims whatsoever. Higher premiums are higher commissions for you so I doubt very seriously that you go to bat to get them lower premiums by then it’s too late they can’t shop around because they’re locked in to their rates because y’all are use the same underwriters.


I get you have legitimate concerns and questions but you really don’t have a clear picture of what my job entails and how this works.

I shop coverage and prices for my insured all the time. Move them to different carriers all the time. It’s pretty much my purpose.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 4:28 pm to
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I shop coverage and prices for my insured all the time. Move them to different carriers all the time. It’s pretty much my purpose.


Yeah I had an independent I was with for 7 years kept telling me the same thing until I shopped around on my own and found out he was full of shite. Dropped his arse like a bad habit. Dude was only in it for the commissions. Should have known Westbank trash.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
84401 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 4:33 pm to
Nope, I’m legit as they come. I’ve also withdrawn from shady situations once the facts came to light. I sleep just fine at night.
Posted by TheCurmudgeon
Not where I want to be
Member since Aug 2014
1481 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 4:39 pm to
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There is an ortho in N.O. who all the plt attys use for major cases.At one point 2 yrs ago he was performing 7 back surgeries a week


See, that's where it breaks down for me. How does this # compare per capita? NOLA has 390k population at best. Plus there are a shite-ton of docs doing backs. Even rolling in surrounding areas for plaintiffs, you add a lot of surgeons too.

I just don't believe there are enough car accidents to support the number/volume of cases needed for even just the TV attys, especially when half or more drivers only have minimum insurance.

Something has to give in this market.
This post was edited on 10/31/18 at 4:41 pm
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
84401 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 4:41 pm to
Gordon and Morris and the mills are perverting the system. I know a pre-lit attorney for one of the mills and he has 200 cases and his average settlement is $2800. A lot of lower socioeconomic professional plaintiffs.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28146 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 4:43 pm to
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