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re: Per request: cycling deaths are on the rise in the US
Posted on 5/25/22 at 10:36 am to concrete_tiger
Posted on 5/25/22 at 10:36 am to concrete_tiger
quote:Ma dude. It's not 2003. No one in cycling wants anything to do with Lance Armstrong.
Yes, every Lance Armstrong wannabe
quote:Weird. You dont' see to give 2 shits about them, either. Guess that "different"?
they could give 2 shits there are 20 cars behind them.
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 10:36 am to Ace Midnight
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Who thought it was a great idea to put thousands of bikes on the roads with 2 and 3 ton vehicles? Bikes who commute at 15 miles per hour next to cars that are averaging 30, 40 mph.
It's insanity.
Who thought it was a good idea to put cars on the road with trucks that outweigh them by 30 tons?
That's crazy.
Posted on 5/25/22 at 10:37 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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Who thought it was a good idea to put cars on the road with trucks that outweigh them by 30 tons?
Conveniently ignores the pace part of the equation
Posted on 5/25/22 at 10:38 am to Ingeniero
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They have no regard for traffic. As they struggle up a hill 2-3 wide, they could give 2 shits there are 20 cars behind them
If they're 2-wide they're following the law in pretty much every state in the country.
Highlight where I said they are breaking the law?
They are often not self-aware and earn the reputation they get. If you block traffic on a no-passing road for 7 miles, expect to have some pissed off drivers. How hard would it be for them to get single file or even just pull over to keep the peace?
An example of recent behavior. A group of cyclists sat at a stop light, blocking multiple cars behind them (including me) from proceeding during a green, while they waited for the rest of the crew to catch up. Once they did (by riding around cars), they then proceeded to block traffic on a 4-lane road with their bikes to allow their "peloton" to regroup and run thru the red light together. Fact. Reality. It happens. Some may see it as no harm, no foul, but it is pretty commonplace. This is s stretch where they ride on a busy road to resume "country riding."
The original post only asked for some courtesy. Observe traffic laws by stopping and using signals. And pull over when you are a hindrance to traffic.
Posted on 5/25/22 at 10:38 am to Taxing Authority
It's not practical at all. I'm 15 miles to any town. I had to take my kids to town. It's pouring down rain.
I met one guy, in all my life who would ride a bike around here. Because life around here is very small towns spread out across rural areas. So it's a 30 minute car ride through the country to school, then 30 minute car ride through the country to go to work, then 30 minute car ride through the country to go to Publix. That's everyday life. This man had no local family, was a marathoner and military man, assistant football coach at the school. His morning bike ride was 2 hours. He was fricking crazy
I met one guy, in all my life who would ride a bike around here. Because life around here is very small towns spread out across rural areas. So it's a 30 minute car ride through the country to school, then 30 minute car ride through the country to go to work, then 30 minute car ride through the country to go to Publix. That's everyday life. This man had no local family, was a marathoner and military man, assistant football coach at the school. His morning bike ride was 2 hours. He was fricking crazy
This post was edited on 5/25/22 at 10:40 am
Posted on 5/25/22 at 10:38 am to LNCHBOX
quote:
Conveniently ignores the pace part of the equation
Which is why we need protected bike lanes, not just shoulder stripes
Posted on 5/25/22 at 10:38 am to OldCat55
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If you come around a mild curve at legal speeds, 45-55, and their is a group of cyclists in the curve that you could not see due to trees along the roadway, how likely is an accident to occur?
Those signs that tell you to slow down for a curve are there for a reason.
Somebody using a mode of transportation that you don't approve of does not absolve you from operating your own vehicle safely and legally.
Posted on 5/25/22 at 10:39 am to Ingeniero
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Which is why we need protected bike lanes, not just shoulder stripes
Cool, register your bike and inspect your bike and pay for those, and get some liability insurance.
This post was edited on 5/25/22 at 10:40 am
Posted on 5/25/22 at 10:39 am to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:
Who thought it was a good idea to put cars on the road with trucks that outweigh them by 30 tons?
Yes because that is exactly the same as your skinny little unprotected arse on a bike v. an automobile.
Posted on 5/25/22 at 10:40 am to Gaggle
quote:for who?
It's not practical at all
quote:
His morning bike ride was 2 hours. He was fricking crazy
Posted on 5/25/22 at 10:41 am to LNCHBOX
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Cool, register your bike and inspect your bike and pay for those, and get some liability insurance.
I pay taxes already. Do walkers need to pay extra taxes and get their shoes licensed and inspected? Cars can't use sidewalks, so why are we letting this mooching walkers use them while we pay for them?
Posted on 5/25/22 at 10:42 am to Ingeniero
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I pay taxes already. Do walkers need to pay extra taxes and get their shoes licensed and inspected? Cars can't use sidewalks, so why are we letting this mooching walkers use them while we pay for them?
This is such a laughably bad take it doesn't warrant a real response.
Posted on 5/25/22 at 10:44 am to Taxing Authority
I do not have time in the day to be on a bike for 4-5 hours a day, which was his minimum. It does not matter how much I want to. You have to be single, childless, have little going on in life. And a total obsessed fitness nut willing to live a very inconvenient life in the rainiest part of the fricking country. Yes, it's crazy
This post was edited on 5/25/22 at 10:45 am
Posted on 5/25/22 at 10:44 am to OldCat55
quote:
I only asked how likely would it be for an accident to occur. I did not assign blame. I don’t drive fast in curves by the way. This save a guy’s life late one night in the 80s. He was passed out drunk in the curve.
It would be highly likely that an accident would occur. Just as likely as if those cyclists were a small car, or a commercial truck.
We can take this train of thought to its natural conclusion, where every accident between a commercial vehicle and a regular car is the car drivers fault for being in a smaller vehicle.
Posted on 5/25/22 at 10:45 am to wadewilson
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where every accident between a commercial vehicle and a regular car is the car drivers fault for being in a smaller vehicle.
Again ignores equal pace capabilities, visibility, etc.
Posted on 5/25/22 at 10:45 am to LNCHBOX
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Conveniently ignores the pace part of the equation
And you are apparently ignoring the number of fatalities caused by accidents with tractor trailers.
In 2020 about 5,000 people died from accidents with big rigs. That same year only about 1,200 bicyclists died in accidents with motor vehicles.
Posted on 5/25/22 at 10:45 am to LNCHBOX
No, didn't ignore your comment about an issue that has no bearing on the discussion. They are travel lanes for cyclists, in Colorado. Not for motor vehicles. Not trying for a win of any sort. Just pointing out that in Colorado, cyclists can use shoulders for traveling. Where applicable.
Posted on 5/25/22 at 10:45 am to wadewilson
I’m sorry. When I said legal, I meant legal for the turn. Many legal curve speeds around here, as posted with the curve designated speeds, are too high because you can’t see because of the proximity of trees to the road.
You can read my other posts as to my feelings about this. I’m not attacking cyclists in any way.
You can read my other posts as to my feelings about this. I’m not attacking cyclists in any way.
Posted on 5/25/22 at 10:46 am to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:
And you are apparently ignoring the number of fatalities caused by accidents with tractor trailers.
In 2020 about 5,000 people died from accidents with big rigs. That same year only about 1,200 bicyclists died in accidents with motor vehicles.
And?
Posted on 5/25/22 at 10:46 am to tigerinthebueche
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Yes because that is exactly the same as your skinny little unprotected arse on a bike v. an automobile.
The numbers says it's actually worse.
Sorry.
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