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re: Pentagon develops microchip that detects COVID under your skin

Posted on 4/13/21 at 11:06 am to
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 4/13/21 at 11:06 am to
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After this past year, why the frick shouldn’t I go conspiracy theorist on this?


do what you want

going all conspiracy theory on everything is en vogue right now

I just find constantly predicting worst case scenario to be easy and rather boring, honestly

Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 4/13/21 at 11:07 am to
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My posts were more about the technology and healthcare, and less about government involvement.

I'm just talking about the technology and how it can or will be used in the future.
And mine were more in regards to those who created/proposed it.

Look, here is another example.

Neuralink is a wild new technology that could result in the study and creation of fully functional artificial limbs and brain computer interfaces.

The benefits of that technology far outweighs what I may deem risky.

Hell, the program/concept discussed in the OP will likely be included in any tech like that anyway, but the benefits afforded by the full tech outweighs what I may deem problematic aspects.

Referencing the sole function of the chip that only serves to detect viruses/diseases, it does not give enough, IMO, technological advancement to override my problems with it.

If we reach tech that alters the very foundation of society by advancing our interfacing abilities with cyberspace, the threat/concern of any other aspects fall to secondary status and I would support the tech wholeheartedly.
Posted by Pedro
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Posted on 4/13/21 at 11:08 am to
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You willingly carry a smartphone around with you. Not much different
eh i at least have some control over the smart phone (however small that control may be getting) I have no control over the chip.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 4/13/21 at 11:09 am to
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After this past year, why the frick shouldn’t I go conspiracy theorist on this?


Exactly.... People who are OK with silencing political opposition, not validating voters in elections with ID’s, masking up the world and shutting down the economy, wildly spending money to grow government, using collectivist tactics to silence free speech by cancelling that which deviates from set narrative they believe in, are well known to desire to rid this country of the 2nd amendment, and in favor of every big brotherish big government legislation they can think of are NOT the people you want entrusted with this kind of technology....


Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 4/13/21 at 11:10 am to
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having a chip that can accurately detect viruses when they enter your body is kinda awesome if you try not to go all conspiracy theory about it




We didn't they do this even 5 years ago, they probably could, for Ebola or something? Or just the general flu - you know you could "update" it yearly and get a better picture.

Why now? Why COVID?





Because this isn't about COVID.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 4/13/21 at 11:11 am to
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Not by you
The worst case scenario of “millions dead” was front and center and I considered it and disagreed with the views.
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You downplayed the frick out of this virus. Come on, have some integrity.
Yes, I did and I stated that our response was overblown, shutdowns would have detrimental impacts on mental health, among other aspects.

I did not think the number of deaths would be as high as they are, yes, that is true.

I still stand by my views that the lasting impacts of our actions in response will be felt for years.

This discussion has been had countless times and is old now.
This post was edited on 4/13/21 at 11:13 am
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 4/13/21 at 11:12 am to
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And mine were more in regards to those who created/proposed it.


a lot of our tech has come from military

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Referencing the sole function of the chip that only serves to detect viruses/diseases, it does not give enough, IMO, technological advancement to override my problems with it.


this is a fair assessment

I actually sat in on a seminar recently about an air sampling device that detects viruses, which is something that I can definitely see being employed in hospitals and offices in the near future

this tech reminded me of that, albeit far more intrusive

I just find this type of stuff fascinating and I get frustrated by people immediately doing tired conspiracy bit
Posted by LSUfanNkaty
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Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 4/13/21 at 11:14 am to
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LNCHBOX



You slow? How is that "not much different"? A cellphone can be left or moved, etc. A chip is inside of YOU. Can't hide from that one, chief.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 4/13/21 at 11:15 am to
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A cellphone can be left or moved, etc.


Honestly tell me how often you are not with your phone. Don't lie like stout did, be honest.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 4/13/21 at 11:17 am to
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and I get frustrated by people immediately doing tired conspiracy bit



The issue is even if the "conspiracy" is based on valid concerns, you still are quick to dismiss it.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 4/13/21 at 11:19 am to
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The issue is even if the "conspiracy" is based on valid concerns, you still are quick to dismiss it.



dismiss what?

a hypothetical situation in the future?
Posted by BornCritic
Member since Nov 2020
696 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 11:19 am to
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We didn't they do this even 5 years ago, they probably could, for Ebola or something? Or just the general flu - you know you could "update" it yearly and get a better picture.

Why now? Why COVID?





Because this isn't about COVID.


It's because we all became less free, permanently, in the past year. And anybody who objects is considered crazy.
Posted by LSUfanNkaty
LC, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 4/13/21 at 11:20 am to
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Honestly tell me how often you are not with your phone. Don't lie like stout did, be honest.



That's not the point. The point is, the cell phone can be left or placed somewhere out of your possession. A chip inserted inside of you, can not.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 4/13/21 at 11:20 am to
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a hypothetical situation in the future?



So slippery slopes aren't real IYO?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 4/13/21 at 11:21 am to
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That's not the point.


It most certainly is.
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The point is, the cell phone can be left or placed somewhere out of your possession. A chip inserted inside of you, can not.


Kinda irrelevant when your phone is next to you 24/7.

I also didn't say they were exactly the same, so I don't really get what you're so hung up on.
Posted by BornCritic
Member since Nov 2020
696 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 11:21 am to
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I did not think the number of deaths would be as high as they are, yes, that is true


You were right. They changed the rules for counting them, and that's why number is what it is. Why are we pretending that we don't know that?
Posted by Salmon
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 4/13/21 at 11:21 am to
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We didn't they do this even 5 years ago, they probably could, for Ebola or something? Or just the general flu - you know you could "update" it yearly and get a better picture.

Why now? Why COVID?


they probably could or did

quote:

Because this isn't about COVID.


yeah the tech wasn't created for COVID
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 4/13/21 at 11:22 am to
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You were right.


He wasn't close to right. He was saying something like 15k deaths.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
117998 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 11:22 am to
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do what you want

going all conspiracy theory on everything is en vogue right now

I just find constantly predicting worst case scenario to be easy and rather boring, honestly


If I were to warp yourself from this time last year to right now and you saw what was going on, you would freak out. Sorry, they’re pounding you into submission. Barring Covid being deadly as Ebola, you’re currently living in the worst case scenario.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 4/13/21 at 11:23 am to
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So slippery slopes aren't real IYO?


some are

some aren't

if you want to go all slippery slope, get rid of your cell phone, as that would have been the start of this slope, no?
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